Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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My girlfriend has a daughter

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A counselor is not the solution kid!!! You have to be in sync with the reality of things - seek within - not externally!! The problem is you and how you think!! Men who have fvcked thinking end up with fvcked up women!!!

Francisco d'Anconia said:
It's just proof that women give some men purpose. It is what it is. :cool:
In their distress, tens of millions of men disagree with this assertion!!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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seriously, man, why are you dating a woman with a kid?
 

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Obsidian said:
seriously, man, why are you dating a woman with a kid?
FINALLY!!!!

Not to be an ******* or anything like that, but why are you spending the time/money/energy raising somebody elses kid? What are you gaining by raising somebody elses offspring, when you can spend that equal time/money/energy to raise your own offspring?

FYI, if a breakup occurs in the future, you can be regarded as the surogate father by the court and thus forced to pay child alomony.
 

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edited, i think that was a bit harsh. incidentally this is a forum about picking up women? :nervous: but good luck man
 

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You guys put raising this kid in a context that she doesn't have a father that's a part of her life. As if I will be the sole male figure around her. This isn't the case. She has a father that lives literally down the street from her. She see's him regularly and he is definately a part of her life.

My problem is that, I'm about to move into a house where I see problems, and trying to correct these before I become a permanent fixture in this house.

My next question. What is wrong with dating a woman that has a kid?

Mintxx, this site is not solely about picking up women. It's about DATING women and growing as a person.

I got really drunk yesterday (a story in itself that I think you all would enjoy) and went to her place last night. Not sure what the hell I said, but she agreed with me completely. She's japanese, so there is a small language barrier between us sometimes. She finally understood and agrees with me. We're still gonna go see a counselor, but it's good that she understands where I'm coming from. Hopefully this doesn't change between now and next week.

MODS can feel free to close this if they want. Case closed.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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My next question. What is wrong with dating a woman that has a kid?
She's a hor. You're raising some pimp's genes instead of your own. Let her (and maybe the government :rolleyes: ) raise the kid, not you. You should have your own children to worry about.

Never love a hor.
 

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Dude... you're crossing the boundaries now. Do not refer to my girl as a who*re. Like I've said before, she has a father in her life.

Also, let me ask you this. Not really sure about your background, but if your parents were to divorce or if your parents are divorced, would that then make your mother a who*re?
 

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I've been in this situation before -I couldn't get a handle on the situation. When I complained about the kid, the mother did nothing about it. When I became stern with the kid which led to the kid and I not liking each other, the mother's feelings changed toward me like it was my fault. She admitted that all the problems resulted from her not being a better parent, but she felt the way she felt.

The problem with dating single mothers is that YOU ALWAYS COME second. You can't win in a situation like this, the mother will never value you like she does her child. And if she does value you more than the child, she's not a woman you should want to be with. And don't get us started on the possibility of her doing the ex.
 

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kdnash82 said:
I already have it in my mind to see the counselor. This is what I wanted. She agreed to it. If what the counselor says is not what I had in mind, then I'll go with it. If it still doesn't work out afterwards, then I'll move on. Sounds pretty simple to me.

I don't think this plan is gonna work out against me. I'm a sane person, and to my knowledge everyone treats their kids the way I think "KIDS" should be treated. One problem in this matter is the fact that I don't have a kid. She believes that I would treat my kid any different than I treat her daughter.

If I had a kid, I would raise her the same way I was raised. Another fact that I left out is that she (the mother) was born into a very rich family. She was the younger daughter out of 3 children. Basically spoiled to the point where she didn't have to work until her mother died and the money dried out. Stupid on her part, but if it didn't happen, I wouldn't be in the picture right now. Now she's raising her daughter the way she was raised. SPOILED ROTTEN!!
So do you want the relationship or do you need the relationship?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
So do you want the relationship or do you need the relationship?
I don't believe anyone "Needs" a relationship. Then again, not everyone wants one. In my case, I do want a relationship. I do want a relationship with this particular girl.

I'm sure that if I was to go out and continue messing around with multiple women, I would eventually come across another girl tht I would want a relationship with. I went through my bachelor faze. It was fun, but to be honest, it's exausting. I decided that I was ready to settle down and be a family man.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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MR_PERFECT said:
The problem with dating single mothers is that YOU ALWAYS COME second. You can't win in a situation like this, the mother will never value you like she does her child. And if she does value you more than the child, she's not a woman you should want to be with. And don't get us started on the possibility of her doing the ex.
This is correct - you will never be the man of the house - you will be neutered!!!!
 

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Kdnash, you obviously don't understand the Natural Order of Things. Call this single mother whatever you will, but a girl like that isn't someone you should try to have a serious relationship with. If she had a kid with this first guy and then dropped him, what makes you think she'll be different with you?

Indeed, you can see already that she's NOT being any different with you.


if your parents were to divorce or if your parents are divorced, would that then make your mother a who*re?
If my mom caused a divorce and then hooked up with some other guy, I very well might call her a hor. Women initiate divorce at least twice as often as men, you know.


Well, we've been planning on making this official and it's something I'm gonna have to deal with on a daily basis.
If you've been planning that then you're a fool.


I just received a text saying that we should take a break. I haven't responded, and don't think I will. Any advice?
DUMP HER NOW. Are you insane?! You're getting pissed off at me for calling "your" girl a hor when she's disrespecting you like this? Read the Bible, man; you need serious help!
 

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kdnash82 said:
.... I do want a relationship with this particular girl. ...
How much are you willing to compromise? This doesn't mean "give in to."
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
How much are you willing to compromise? This doesn't mean "give in to."
What do you mean? I am willing to bend to the point where everyone is respected the way they're suppose to be respected. I'm not even sure if that makes sense.
 

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What do you mean? I am willing to bend to the point where everyone is respected the way they're suppose to be respected. I'm not even sure if that makes sense.
They way their supposed to be respected? Uh-oh, I smell trouble... :whistle:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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