"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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my gf wants to wait A YEAR!?

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ugh. she told me today. we're both 17. we're both virgins. we were doing normal stuff. making out. fingering. her touching me. she's given me bjs. i've eaten her out. but we were both naked. i started grinding on her and whenever it came close to going in she said "be careful don't let it go in." later on when we were talking about it she said she thought she wanted to wait till about a year had passed. what do i do about this?! i understand 6 months or so cuz its kinda a big deal. but a YEAR!? i don't have that kinda time. the only problem is that i really actually like her. help me fellas.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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(JJ) said:
ugh. she told me today. we're both 17. i started grinding on her and whenever it came close to going in she said "be careful don't let it go in." later on when we were talking about it she said she thought she wanted to wait till about a year had passed. what do i do about this?! i understand 6 months or so cuz its kinda a big deal. but a YEAR!? i don't have that kinda time. the only problem is that i really actually like her. help me fellas.
Either

a) you wait a year to sleep with her
b) rape her and go to jail
 

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If you have other options go have sex with them and play boyfriend to your girl and give her what she wants in the meantime.

Though one of the times you and she are playing around go ahead and let it slip in but then quickly take it out and apologize.

The idea with that is to give her a taste of what it'd be like to go all the way.

And keep your fvcking mouth shut about fvcking other girls behind her back and don't get all guilty about fvcking other girls and then tell your girl.

She doesn't care about getting you off when you need it so why should you give a fvck about her feelings about you boning chicks who will give it up?

So yeah get with other chicks behind her back sexually and who knows maybe one of them will be so awesome she'll become your new girlfriend and you'll forget about the current cold fish one.
 

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(JJ) said:
ugh. she told me today. we're both 17. we're both virgins. we were doing normal stuff. making out. fingering. her touching me. she's given me bjs. i've eaten her out. but we were both naked. i started grinding on her and whenever it came close to going in she said "be careful don't let it go in." later on when we were talking about it she said she thought she wanted to wait till about a year had passed. what do i do about this?! i understand 6 months or so cuz its kinda a big deal. but a YEAR!? i don't have that kinda time. the only problem is that i really actually like her. help me fellas.
I don't get it... she does all that but in her mind she's still a nice little virgin??
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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If you really care about her and you think shes worth waiting a year for,find another chick to fvck on the side and keep your relationship running smoothly.
You'll get your experience up and when you have sex with her,you'll know some what of what your doing lolz.Just tease her with the foreplay and put your p3nis
right on her pvssy and start grinding,do that a couple times eventually she's just gon tell you to put it in.And like Phat Rabbit said,allways have condoms ready.
 

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Sounds like a friend of mine haha. He actually waited a year. I wouldn't say his girl is the top fish in the pond by and lengths... but none of us know how he waited a year for it.
I'll have to jump up on the bandwagon here and agree with some of the others; if she won't give it and you have other options, use em.
 

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just put a condom on next time and say, this "won't hurt a bit".
 

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Sounds like a quality woman. A woman with some will power. That's hard to find these days.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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(JJ) said:
ugh. she told me today. we're both 17. we're both virgins. we were doing normal stuff. making out. fingering. her touching me. she's given me bjs. i've eaten her out. but we were both naked. i started grinding on her and whenever it came close to going in she said "be careful don't let it go in." later on when we were talking about it she said she thought she wanted to wait till about a year had passed. what do i do about this?! i understand 6 months or so cuz its kinda a big deal. but a YEAR!? i don't have that kinda time. the only problem is that i really actually like her. help me fellas.
Next time you're naked with each other, slip your penis into her vagina 'by accident' and then quickly withdraw. Apologise; this should help convince her that it really was by accident. Now you have given her a taste of what sex is like and if she hasn't already been banged, taken her virginity. If she doesn't want more, then you'll have to finish with her because she is being incredibly selfish as she is happy for you to get her off by eating out, making out and all this cuddling, but will not return the favour by giving you what you most want: intercourse. I can't advice cheating simply because it is not the Don Juan thing to do.

Now, if you finish with her for this reason just be prepared for the backlash of "You just wanted me for sex!" At 17 that is precisely what boys want girls for. Don't be ashamed of this, and don't feel bad about leaving a girl who is not giving you what she wants.

Pretend you are in full agreement about what she thinks she wants then keep seducing her it will come much sooner than a year if you act patient and make her comfortable.
Sure, you could try that and it might even work. But I'm going to go Anti-Dump on this one and say that he needs to weed out an uninterested girl (she's uninterested because she refuses sexual intercourse).
 

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Do your normal thing and get her just to the point of climax and then quit. Do, this right and she'll be the one jumping you.
 

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If JJ was her top priority and she was head over heels in love with him and desperately afraid of losing him her giving up the pvssy would be an option on the table.

She would bring up the wanting to wait crap but also offer the pvssy up right away if JJ really wanted it out of fear of losing him in her life if she didn't.

Problem with a lot of guys on the board is they don't generate any fear of the girl losing them if they don't get what they want from her.

And in this way the girl gets everything she wants all the re-assurance and time wasting nonsense while the AFC gets a big pile of sh!t right on top of his head for staying with a cold fish that fully controls the frame because he never put the fear into her mind of losing him. Its a fear that comes when you let a chick know you don't put up with bullsh!t in a relationship and you walk when you don't get what you want that is very important to you. The fear of losing you when you let it be known you will walk away from a chick for not getting what you want shows you exactly how much value the chick places on you being in her life ie what is more important to her, you or her stupid religious ideals of waiting for sex?
 

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DonJuan11 said:
Either

a) you wait a year to sleep with her
b) rape her and go to jail
or

wait a year and still don't sleep with her, is what will happen if you pick a).

Tell her you agree, and since you both are too young, you should not be in a serious relationship. Go get laid somewhere else, in the meantime. If it is gonna happen, she will allow it, wether you wait for her or go about your bussiness and start dating others.
 

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Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous, chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck you like a porn star and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife/GF comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first or "just isn't comfortable with you yet" is the same girl who ƒucked the "totally hot guy" in the foam cannon party in Cancun with her girlfriends on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sexual, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous, chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck you like a porn star and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife/GF comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first or "just isn't comfortable with you yet" is the same girl who ƒucked the "totally hot guy" in the foam cannon party in Cancun with her girlfriends on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sexual, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

That is soo painfully true its sad...:rolleyes: :cry: :D
 

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KontrollerX said:
If you have other options go have sex with them and play boyfriend to your girl and give her what she wants in the meantime.

Though one of the times you and she are playing around go ahead and let it slip in but then quickly take it out and apologize.

The idea with that is to give her a taste of what it'd be like to go all the way.

And keep your fvcking mouth shut about fvcking other girls behind her back and don't get all guilty about fvcking other girls and then tell your girl.

She doesn't care about getting you off when you need it so why should you give a fvck about her feelings about you boning chicks who will give it up?

So yeah get with other chicks behind her back sexually and who knows maybe one of them will be so awesome she'll become your new girlfriend and you'll forget about the current cold fish one.

This is fvcking horrible advice, part of the reason why anything said here should be taken with a big grain of salt. Did you even bother to read the first few lines of the OP?

If sex is what you want, then just leave, skip the trap that is cheating (only makes a mess anyways), cut your losses, and pursue another.

But...

Ok, by all odds, she's bluffing, so to speak. If you want to fvck her, you will, and the only way it won't happen for a year is if you want it not to. Not to be cynical here, but I've NEVER seen any such timeline play out the way it was set up originally ( a year in this case) unless the guy wanted it to as well, and didn't advance it any. She's either afraid it'll mess things up, afraid to do it, or really any other half-illogical reason. Security and comfort are good tools here if you so choose.
 

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Have you made her *** yet by going down on her? If not, study up on how to do it right and get her just absolutely shaking and trembling and dripping wet with ***.

I don't care if she pledged to stay a virgin until she's 50, if you get her excited enough, she won't be able to resist it.
 

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"This is fvcking horrible advice, part of the reason why anything said here should be taken with a big grain of salt. Did you even bother to read the first few lines of the OP?"

Its only horrible for symps like you who would get all full of guilt and then
spill your little guts out to the b!tch ruining the great setup you'd have going.

Even if the relationship were ruined over it who gives a fvck anyway?

Its not like the b!tch is putting out is it?

Honestly I'm surprised at how utterly hopeless and stupid many of you discussion forum guys are.

Young chicks do not give a fvck about morals that you value and hold dear.

They pretend to out of familial programming but in reality are just giving lip service to their moral training by parents when you hear anything moral come out of their mouths about wanting to wait yadda yadda yadda.

Young chicks are out to have fun and do not get all hung up on morality like you AFC symps do so quit worrying about the morality of things and work to best benefit yourself.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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