"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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My GF called me tonight after she canceled our date before

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I had a date with my GF and she canceled it the day before. It was supposed to be friday.

She has done this a few times before the past few months. I told her she is being totally disrespectful, she argue and said she is respecting me.
She said she needed to meet her friends and go to a lounge since one of them is going away for a few months. I told her that she lied to me in the past about seeing me on the weeknd. which she did.
She turned the tables on me saying I do not understand her and am weird. She thinks it is weird that I want to see her either on friday or saturday every week.

So after that BS. I wake up sick the next day.

She called me 2 hours ago (date night) while I am sick and bed and wants to talk on the phone for 2 hours.

She called me at like 10pm. She was at home in her apt.
I can't figure this out, she was supposed to meet her friends, and canceled the date with me but ends up spending 2 hours on the phone with me the night of our date?

Confused.

I generally do not trust anybody especially women, its the way I am.

BUT

My first guess was if she is cheating on me someone stood her up, someone canceled the date, or someone tried to sex her and she didn't want it.??

I definitely have suspicion she is cheating because she is a foreigner here on a work visa. She needs to marry someone to stay here.

She also needs to dress in the highest fashions.
I don't know help me.

My Gut says get the f*ck away from her
But I just don't know if she is the girl for me or if she is a liar. I usually am good at spotting the difference but with her I never can tell.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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well that does sound weird. I woulda called that whole thing on the phone about her talking to me for 2 hours. I dont talk that long on the phone so i would have not stayed that long. Just tell her......and be frank.........you dont like this kinda crap, you take it as disrespect and your giving her one more chance, if she blows it your gone......or you could say its 2 late if you feel tahts the way.



its possible she is cheating, but dont get insecure about it, keep your cool and if you feel she is not giving you the attention your rigtfully diserve, next her
 

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But I just don't know if she is the girl for me or if she is a liar. I usually am good at spotting the difference but with her I never can tell.
Jesus, you are 22, and you're already thinking whether or not this is THE girl for you or not? WTF is wrong with you. I'll say it right now, the reason some of you people can't make relationships work is because you WANT to be in a relationship so badly. I don't know what it is, maybe growing up you were the only one without a girlfriend and that left you wanting, or maybe you're afraid of being alone, or maybe you just like the safety of a relationship.

I'll tell you this tho...

You are a man, it is in your nature to AVOID relationships (especially at this age) because they lock you down and remove you of your freedom. Girls expect this, and want this. They want a guy that they can tame, they don't want one that's already tamed and ready to serve.

Earning something with your own hard work will always feel more rewarding then having it given to you on a silver platter. Once you realize this, it will be girls obsessing over you like this, and not vice versa.

Do you understand what I'm saying? You shouldn't even be considering the thought that this girl is the one for you. As far as you are concerned, she is NOT the one, and it is up to HER to change your mind. As soon as you start wondering whether or not she is THE ONE, you have already lost her.

Cause once you start thinking like that, everything about you changes, your actions, how you behave towards her, and she knows she has you. After that, she becomes bored and looks for a new challenge. This can take months, or years, or it can take a week, but it is inevitable and depends entierly on the girls personality and upbringing.

If you want the girl to fall in love with you, you have to be good to her, but at the same time, not care if she leaves tommorow and you never hear from her again.
 

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My first guess was if she is cheating on me someone stood her up, someone canceled the date, or someone tried to sex her and she didn't want it.??

yes something went wrong with her well LAID out plans

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I definitely have suspicion she is cheating because she is a foreigner here on a work visa. She needs to marry someone to stay here

bad. very very bad.

she has to wh0re to stay in your country ?

dude she is on the fast track

run away

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My Gut says get the f*ck away from her
But I just don't know if she is the girl for me or if she is a liar. I usually am good at spotting the difference but with her I never can tell


your gut says DANGER DANGER

listen to your gut

if 100 years ago we are hunting bears in the forest and your gut says don't go around that corner

POP QUIZ WHAT DO YOU DO.... WHAT DO YOU DO....

God gave us these instincts to know when something is wrong

to protect us from danger

we live in a modern age where man has his food killed for him

and we get told by people that lie to us " you are just paranoid "

soon we lose touch with our natural self

being a man being a DJ

part of that is instincts it's not just picking up women that feminism has robbed us of

feminism and it's agenda has robbed us as men of the complete package

being a kick ass warrior type

in times of war this is draw out in us again to the forefront of our minds

i have been blessed / cursed to have had a hard life where i have had to trust my instincts or die on the streets

Robert De Niro put it best in the movie RONIN

Jean Reanu asked him HOW DID YOU KNOW it was a TRAP

" whenever there is any doubt. there is no doubt "

if you think it's a trap. it is.

you cannot shake the deadly sick feeling in your gut that she is cheating when you catch her out in her lies. _ _

you get your instincts for danger tuned right and listen to them it will save you alot of problems in life


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A$$hole is just another word for a confident man who won't take sh!t from a b1tch.
 

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Originally posted by Reed247

She called me 2 hours ago (date night) while I am sick and bed and wants to talk on the phone for 2 hours.

She called me at like 10pm. She was at home in her apt.
I can't figure this out, she was supposed to meet her friends, and canceled the date with me but ends up spending 2 hours on the phone with me the night of our date?

Confused.
Next time that sh!t happens, DON'T ANSWER your phone when she calls. Don't answer for the entire night.

My guess is she was calling to see if you were still in or whether you had made plans without her...you know, to see how serious your "stop disrespecting me" threats were. If I'm right, the good news is that she at least felt guilty for standing you up and worried you might find more interesting things to do with your time than wait on her.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Another g/f problem thread!!!

Are you sexing her? If you are then what makes you think that you are the only one?

Is your penis special??
 

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Is your penis special??

LMAO !!!!

just when you think it's safe to get back onto the foum....

*jaws theme* .......


it's a PRL one liner !


the answer ofcourse is :

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“First off - she is just another hor who has opened her legs to another man - you are no one special - and there are no "Greatest" to hors - you are just the next pimp in line!!! “

from my sig.


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Reed, what I'm saying is that you should always be suspicious and never trust a woman that you are sexing if she is not your wife! Why, you ask? Because the "shame" barrier has been broken - once a woman gets sexual she becomes shameless and the only standard to being sexual with another dude is if she desires him!!

Just remeber you are only the next penis line - never get emotional with a woman who you are sexing who isn't your wife!!!!

I never had a "g/f" "cancel" on me - this is not done to a man unless she is seeing another dude!!! I take this as grave disrespect and know that she has another person on her mind that she thinks is more important than me - and there is no-one more important to a girl than a girl's man - unless she found another penis to replace his!!

This is likely what is happening to you!!! Do not get her pregnant nor consider her for a LTR and definitely not marriage!!!
 

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we never have sex

We still haven't slept together because she isn't ready. She told me she would rather wait until marriage. She let's me play with her body but I can't stick it in there. So I don't know.
she's online right now and it's saturday night. I'm not with her because I said I was leaving this weekend. I don't ever talk to her online, I make myself invisible.
I think all girls in Manhattan are looking for a sugar daddy. I have spent around 2800 dollars on dates with this girl since August also...She is worth it because she is extremely beautiful. I don't care as long as she spends time with me. But lately I don't get this whole canceling dates thing at the last minute unless she met some guy who she thinks will pay her rent. I can't pay her rent anyway because It cost 3500 a month to rent a nice place in the city. Plus dates, plus presents for special occasions, I mean it's like you have to be a multi millionare to date some of these women.
I make a pretty good living for my age 60+, and she wants to buy things like hand bags which cost 1,000-2G's each.
I know you guys might be thinking move on to another girl but believe me, in the big city we have to compete with big shots who make over 100-500G's a year, bankers, big shots etc.
I usually go for 8-10's and these girls have a lot of options.
Of course you can come accross the occasional freak, who wants to have a little sexy adventure but that is rare, today it's like it all has to be some kind of agreement or financial arrangement.

I don't know but that's life in NYC no matter what type of DJ you are. Are 2 DJ's really the same? Especially if they are located in different regions of the world where different things matter.
 
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Damn!! I had a response for you but lost it when I inadvertently hit the blasted "esc" button!!!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I have spent around 2800 dollars on dates with this girl since August also...She is worth it because she is extremely beautiful. I don't care as long as she spends time with me.
Wow, I don't know...wow. There is no hope for you.
 

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Re: we never have sex

Originally posted by Reed247
I have spent around 2800 dollars on dates with this girl since August also...She is worth it because she is extremely beautiful.
That's it mate.....it's official.....you're a chump of the highest order.

2800 dollars because she is beautiful?

Who gives a fuk how beautiful she is.....you've never slept with her,you're not married to her and still you've spent 2800 dollars on her?


Originally posted by Reed247
I don't care as long as she spends time with me.
Oh fuk me.....how desperate are you?

I don't know if anybody has told you but READ THE BIBLE!

Things like this really should'nt happen:rolleyes:

EDIT:MOM...you read my mind.
 
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Reed, you are thinking, "I must spend money on a woman to keep her" this is utterly false!!! Even in NYC - this isn't true!

But it is true that you MUST spend money on a "HOR" to keep her!!

Your girl is not a virgin so quit fooling yourself - she is a hor as the rest but she is sexing someone else with more money than you and doesn't want you to impregnate her!! You are her money bag for doing nothing - she is the most expensive hor in NYC - $2800 and no sex? Come on!!!!!!! How much would it cost for sex? A million dollars?????

"But she is pretty", you say!

"Pretty" cost her nothing!!!! So why in the hell are YOU paying for her prettiness!!! STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say "No" to "I'll let you do anything to me but don't put your penis in my vagina hos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Do not get "emotional" over this hor who doesn't allow "you" to sex her!!!!!!!
 
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shes supposed to

she is supposed to come over next saturday to my place for dinner, so i'll give this a last shot.
But how do you know she is a wh*re how can you all say this? What facts can you tell me from what I have told you? Is it possible that she really is telling the truth to me?
I never have been great at reading my gut.
I guess my gut is fear, but how do I know if it is fear or if it is meaning that she is the wrong girl for me?

Yes she plays a lot of games, She has been like this since I met her last year. Remember she is foreign and has a bunch of green card friends she hangs out with...It's a sin to date a white guy for a Korean girl like that...It's really bad because Koreans are dead serious about keeping the korean blood.

listen man, 2800 since last year...Maybe less...I spent 700 dollars on New Years Eve which was worth it because it was really fun.
Then add 30 or so dinner dates to that. Each around 60-100 a pop.
Plus nights out drinking another 50 or so...
Plus christmas presents, birthdays, valentines day, etc, she has spent probably about 600 on me.


I mean don't hate me because I keep pursuing her, but she just calls me up man and it's hard to dump a beauty...

My friend is going through similar sh*t to...he is dating an ex-stripper, and this chick is a nightmare compared to my GF. She is violent tempered and a big time snob, and she comes from a humble backround which makes her a total idiot who thinks she is big time. He won't leave her and continues to pay her rent and her bills!
But she wants to marry him though unlike my GF who needs another freeking 5 years of getting to know each other.

It's like you meet the ideal woman in your mind, imagine it. You meet her and you don't want to let go of her even if she acts spoiled.
It's easier said then done like you all reccomend to move on. Yes, probably wiser but still.

She even offered to let me follow her if I didn't believe her.

I asked my friend if he would follow her one night and he will. I'll get to the bottom of this.

I like to play these games sometimes, because if I have a gut feeling she is seeing another guy, then I will do anything to catch her in the act.

I would love to catch her in the act! I only need to catch her with another guy and she's history. But I only have suspicion, I can't prove a damn thing.
 
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As I stated - do not spend money "any" money on her and see/hear her response!! She is a hor because she is fuvking arounfd with you - i.e. letting you do shyt that hors let men do except the penis in the vagina part!

Quit acting as if she is some "innocent" foreign girl - get this out of your head!!!!!!!!!!

You are being manipulated and it irks me that you do not see this - I may just take a visit to NY and personally slap you to wake you up!!!

You are obviously lonely in the big city - I understand, but do not let a woman control your emotions and your state of mind!! A "g'f" would see you more than once a week - trust me on this!!!

She is not your wife so quit acting as if she is "yours"!!!!! Dude, expect NOTHING from her if you wish to keep your sanity!!!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You could have posted a single sentance and gotten all of the same advice:

My gut says get the fvck away from her

Once, when I was walking to a bust stop at two in the morning in the city, I got a bad feeling. Right in my gut. I looked around - everything seemed ok. But I couldnt move another step. It was like there was a wall infront of me. So I turned around and ran back to the party and called for a ride.

The next morning, on the news, a drunken student had been mugged, beaten, and then shot in an alley across the street from where I got the bad feeling, about fifteen minutes after I was there.

Trust youre gut - if there is ever ANY doubt... there is NO doubt

She is not the one for you. The one for you tackles you with a hug and kisses youre breath away... she doesnt cancell on you JUST TO TEST if youre still at home, or out living youre life.
 

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Originally posted by Reed247
I had a date with my GF and she canceled it the day before. It was supposed to be friday.

She has done this a few times before the past few months. I told her she is being totally disrespectful, she argue and said she is respecting me.
She said she needed to meet her friends and go to a lounge since one of them is going away for a few months. I told her that she lied to me in the past about seeing me on the weeknd. which she did.

And your reason for still being with a woman whom you can't trust? Don't tell me it's because you don't trust anyone anyways?

She has lied to you in the past. But your holding on for a pay off, so what is your pay off in this whole ordeal?



Originally posted by Reed247

She turned the tables on me saying I do not understand her and am weird. She thinks it is weird that I want to see her either on friday or saturday every week.

I think it's wierd too. You obviously have NO life and your trying to keep a tight rein on your girl by hogging up the weekends. Are you aware that desperate needy types do get cheated on and dumped for real men who will treat her like **** and not give a dam about her, as YOU should be acting, instead of what I'm reading about of YOU! Wow that was a long sentence, but I had to say it. You need to wake up. Your behavior is unbecoming of a DJ.


Originally posted by Reed247

So after that BS. I wake up sick the next day.

Copiously suspicious here. Your one sick puppy alright. You suddenly get sick the day she is doing something that you don't want her to do...hmmmm!!!

Originally posted by Reed247

She called me 2 hours ago (date night) while I am sick and bed and wants to talk on the phone for 2 hours.

She called me at like 10pm. She was at home in her apt.
I can't figure this out, she was supposed to meet her friends, and canceled the date with me but ends up spending 2 hours on the phone with me the night of our date?

Confused.

Confused? I don't think so. You can be pretty manipulative can't you? At least she talked to you for two hours. Have you ever thought that your guilt trip worked too well?

I know that we are only seeing YOUR side of this story, but I've detected somethings that gives me cause for concern. Namely this statment:

"I generally do not trust anybody especially women, its the way I am."

You might want to get some counciling to help with this problem, cause it will destroy any attempts that you have towards a AFC type of relationship.

I say AFC because that is obviously how your doing this thing with your girl. Your needy and untrusting, you suddenly get sick when things don't go your way, your still in a relationship with a woman whom you've caught lying to you.

Originally posted by Reed247


My first guess was if she is cheating on me someone stood her up, someone canceled the date, or someone tried to sex her and she didn't want it.??

I definitely have suspicion she is cheating because she is a foreigner here on a work visa. She needs to marry someone to stay here.

She also needs to dress in the highest fashions.
I don't know help me.

My Gut says get the f*ck away from her
But I just don't know if she is the girl for me or if she is a liar. I usually am good at spotting the difference but with her I never can tell.
Go with the gut instinct and find a woman whom you can totally manipulate. Or become a real DJ and start doing other things such as chasing other girls until you find a good match, then dump they lying **** your with. Also finding other hobbies so that you don't come accross as this needy type also.
 
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