"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Re: oh and

Originally posted by r_j_goebel
half of you people on this board are freaking trolls. ****y dumbasses produce bad sperm.
You end up following their advice then you call them ****y dumbases? you sound like the ****y dumba.ss.

... but I did tell her soon after about my original plan to give her a rose out of 'pity' as I put it but of course she was smart enough to know better. She said that would have been a great thing to do and she would have loved to have a flower on her desk.
You can't believe in what a girl tells you she'd like.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Lost In Translation

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troll pickup

Name : r_j_goebel
Age : 14
Occupation : Troll

translated :

I walk into the bank and strutting my stuff

i walked into the school lunch canteen area peacocking the new jumper my mother knitted for me which reads "TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL"

I decided to give up the rose plan

if i get caught stealing flowers from the school garden again i will be suspended

the fact that yeah, it might freak her out a little bit, depending on what kind of person she is

the old lady at the school lunch canteen window will for a fact figure out i stole it from the school gardens based on me being the captain of the school flora club and the fact that the groundskeeper sowed all the school flowers one colour. curse you groundskeeper Willy...curse you

I say, Hey sarah, when I see her. Her face lights up. I walk towards the front counter to make a deposit.

I say, Hey Mrs Smith when i see her and the old lady's face lights up. I walk towards the front lunch counter to pay for my lunch

After I get all that stuff done, I walk back to her desk and say

after i buy milk cause my mother says i have to i walk back to her register

What would it take for you to be my PERSONAL banker.?

i ask if i order a grilled chesse sandwich will your old wrinkly hands be the ones that cook it ?

And she says, 'not too much, that's my job.'

And she says, 'yes, that's my job.'

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away, halway blushing.

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away hearing the sound of an oven bell meaning the pies are cooked

OK thats all I remember about the original things that we said to each other... but I did tell her soon after about my original plan to give her a rose out of 'pity' as I put it but of course she was smart enough to know better. She said that would have been a great thing to do and she would have loved to have a flower on her desk. And I got her number . CELL number , *****es.

I told her i was captain of the school flora club but ofcouse she was smart enough to know this. i asked her if the runours were true and that she had been to prison 35 years ago and had only just been cleared for working with children. she told me yes and told me she still remembered her cell block number in prison. i wrote this down. i got her cell number b****es!

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. short and sweet.

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. 2 minutes talking and 8 minutes me daydreaming

Mwuh ha ha. I rule.

mum has told me since i was little i am special.


Lost In Translation :D

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“I'd have that azz bouncing up and down like a low-rider in a Dr. Dre music video.”
 

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Re: troll pickup

Originally posted by Lost In Translation
Name : r_j_goebel
Age : 14
Occupation : Troll

translated :

I walk into the bank and strutting my stuff

i walked into the school lunch canteen area peacocking the new jumper my mother knitted for me which reads "TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL"

I decided to give up the rose plan

if i get caught stealing flowers from the school garden again i will be suspended

the fact that yeah, it might freak her out a little bit, depending on what kind of person she is

the old lady at the school lunch canteen window will for a fact figure out i stole it from the school gardens based on me being the captain of the school flora club and the fact that the groundskeeper sowed all the school flowers one colour. curse you groundskeeper Willy...curse you

I say, Hey sarah, when I see her. Her face lights up. I walk towards the front counter to make a deposit.

I say, Hey Mrs Smith when i see her and the old lady's face lights up. I walk towards the front lunch counter to pay for my lunch

After I get all that stuff done, I walk back to her desk and say

after i buy milk cause my mother says i have to i walk back to her register

What would it take for you to be my PERSONAL banker.?

i ask if i order a grilled chesse sandwich will your old wrinkly hands be the ones that cook it ?

And she says, 'not too much, that's my job.'

And she says, 'yes, that's my job.'

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away, halway blushing.

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away hearing the sound of an oven bell meaning the pies are cooked

OK thats all I remember about the original things that we said to each other... but I did tell her soon after about my original plan to give her a rose out of 'pity' as I put it but of course she was smart enough to know better. She said that would have been a great thing to do and she would have loved to have a flower on her desk. And I got her number . CELL number , *****es.

I told her i was captain of the school flora club but ofcouse she was smart enough to know this. i asked her if the runours were true and that she had been to prison 35 years ago and had only just been cleared for working with children. she told me yes and told me she still remembered her cell block number in prison. i wrote this down. i got her cell number b****es!

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. short and sweet.

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. 2 minutes talking and 8 minutes me daydreaming

Mwuh ha ha. I rule.

mum has told me since i was little i am special.


Lost In Translation :D

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Quote : Derek Flint
“I'd have that azz bouncing up and down like a low-rider in a Dr. Dre music video.”
Owned!
 

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Re: troll pickup

Originally posted by Lost In Translation
Name : r_j_goebel
Age : 14
Occupation : Troll

translated :

I walk into the bank and strutting my stuff

i walked into the school lunch canteen area peacocking the new jumper my mother knitted for me which reads "TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL"

I decided to give up the rose plan

if i get caught stealing flowers from the school garden again i will be suspended

the fact that yeah, it might freak her out a little bit, depending on what kind of person she is

the old lady at the school lunch canteen window will for a fact figure out i stole it from the school gardens based on me being the captain of the school flora club and the fact that the groundskeeper sowed all the school flowers one colour. curse you groundskeeper Willy...curse you

I say, Hey sarah, when I see her. Her face lights up. I walk towards the front counter to make a deposit.

I say, Hey Mrs Smith when i see her and the old lady's face lights up. I walk towards the front lunch counter to pay for my lunch

After I get all that stuff done, I walk back to her desk and say

after i buy milk cause my mother says i have to i walk back to her register

What would it take for you to be my PERSONAL banker.?

i ask if i order a grilled chesse sandwich will your old wrinkly hands be the ones that cook it ?

And she says, 'not too much, that's my job.'

And she says, 'yes, that's my job.'

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away, halway blushing.

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away hearing the sound of an oven bell meaning the pies are cooked

OK thats all I remember about the original things that we said to each other... but I did tell her soon after about my original plan to give her a rose out of 'pity' as I put it but of course she was smart enough to know better. She said that would have been a great thing to do and she would have loved to have a flower on her desk. And I got her number . CELL number , *****es.

I told her i was captain of the school flora club but ofcouse she was smart enough to know this. i asked her if the runours were true and that she had been to prison 35 years ago and had only just been cleared for working with children. she told me yes and told me she still remembered her cell block number in prison. i wrote this down. i got her cell number b****es!

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. short and sweet.

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. 2 minutes talking and 8 minutes me daydreaming

Mwuh ha ha. I rule.

mum has told me since i was little i am special.


Lost In Translation :D

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Quote : Derek Flint
“I'd have that azz bouncing up and down like a low-rider in a Dr. Dre music video.”
:crackup:

Beside's RJ, dude, I don't know about everyone else here but doesn't "of course, that's my job" sound like she's uninterested? And another thing, you didn't even go through with your "perfect plan". chicken sh*t. Cause you knew we were right. Didn't you?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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oh man. this guy is such a douche! asks for advice, decides to take it, and then brags about how good he is. dude, getting a number is no feat. :rolleyes:
 

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wow R_J you need to buy a t-shirt that says "Property of Lost" He called you out on EVERY SENTENCE of your pathetic post. I'm actually embarrassed for you.:yes:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I wish I could throw baseballs at some of your faces..Does anyone here ever have anything positive to say?
 

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Does anyone here ever have anything positive to say?
I do.... I'm so damn good, I should be a god :D

Now that's being positive!

You end up following their advice then you call them ****y dumbases? you sound like the ****y dumba.ss.
Agreed. You ditched giving the rose to her co-worker for delivery (which we said was a stupid idea) and approached her directly. And it worked. Thanks to us, you saved $4 that you would have spent on a stupid flower.

I think you should be thanking us instead of trying to turn this around. As a thank you, I think you should mail that $4 to me.
 

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Something positive

1. You made the right decision in not giving her the rose. That kinda stuff is for well after you have gotten to known her, not in the begining. The begining is all about trying to figure out her interest level and whether it is worth it.

2. While I can only go on what you wrote, you seemed to portray yourself to her as someone fun and confident. That is good.

3. Remember this is just the beginning, getting a number is not that special. It just means she is is giving you and opportunity. Make her work to get your interest, then you will know that you have hers.
 

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I think you should be thanking us instead of trying to turn this around. As a thank you, I think you should mail that $4 to me. [/B]
Dang, you really must be poor or something
 

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Re: bump bump bump

Originally posted by r_j_goebel
Alright..
Update for all of you wanna be cool people out there

I walk into the bank and strutting my stuff... I decided to give up the rose plan, based on the fact that yeah, it might freak her out a little bit, depending on what kind of person she is.

I say, Hey sarah, when I see her. Her face lights up. I walk towards the front counter to make a deposit.

After I get all that stuff done, I walk back to her desk and say


What would it take for you to be my PERSONAL banker.?

And she says, 'not too much, that's my job.'

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away, halway blushing.

OK thats all I remember about the original things that we said to each other... but I did tell her soon after about my original plan to give her a rose out of 'pity' as I put it but of course she was smart enough to know better. She said that would have been a great thing to do and she would have loved to have a flower on her desk. And I got her number . CELL number , *****es.

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. short and sweet.

Mwuh ha ha. I rule.
are you sure this really happened or are you just trying to make yourself look cool?

It doesn't sound real at all.


For some reason I just don't think you actually had the courage to get her number.


You don't go from MAJOR ask licking AFC to DJ master over night.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Dang, you really must be poor or something
Hey, if you're gonna waste money, why not send it my way! Everytime you wanna give a girl a rose, send me $4. That way you satisfy your urge to waste money, and I make profit. Everybody wins!!! :D
 

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I think this applies here:

Not sure of who, but I've seen someone say on this board something like "giving an unearned gift is like rewarding your dog for ****ting on the carpet". ....or for that matter, mentioning that you were going to give a gift must be like feeding your dog as a reward for ****ting on the carpet..... LOL
 

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Re: troll pickup

Originally posted by Lost In Translation
Name : r_j_goebel
Age : 14
Occupation : Troll

translated :

I walk into the bank and strutting my stuff

i walked into the school lunch canteen area peacocking the new jumper my mother knitted for me which reads "TOO COOL FOR SCHOOL"

I decided to give up the rose plan

if i get caught stealing flowers from the school garden again i will be suspended

the fact that yeah, it might freak her out a little bit, depending on what kind of person she is

the old lady at the school lunch canteen window will for a fact figure out i stole it from the school gardens based on me being the captain of the school flora club and the fact that the groundskeeper sowed all the school flowers one colour. curse you groundskeeper Willy...curse you

I say, Hey sarah, when I see her. Her face lights up. I walk towards the front counter to make a deposit.

I say, Hey Mrs Smith when i see her and the old lady's face lights up. I walk towards the front lunch counter to pay for my lunch

After I get all that stuff done, I walk back to her desk and say

after i buy milk cause my mother says i have to i walk back to her register

What would it take for you to be my PERSONAL banker.?

i ask if i order a grilled chesse sandwich will your old wrinkly hands be the ones that cook it ?

And she says, 'not too much, that's my job.'

And she says, 'yes, that's my job.'

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away, halway blushing.

I say, " I appreciate the enthusiasm', keep the gaze locked, and she looks away hearing the sound of an oven bell meaning the pies are cooked

OK thats all I remember about the original things that we said to each other... but I did tell her soon after about my original plan to give her a rose out of 'pity' as I put it but of course she was smart enough to know better. She said that would have been a great thing to do and she would have loved to have a flower on her desk. And I got her number . CELL number , *****es.

I told her i was captain of the school flora club but ofcouse she was smart enough to know this. i asked her if the runours were true and that she had been to prison 35 years ago and had only just been cleared for working with children. she told me yes and told me she still remembered her cell block number in prison. i wrote this down. i got her cell number b****es!

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. short and sweet.

And the convo lasted.. maybe 10min total.. if that. 2 minutes talking and 8 minutes me daydreaming

Mwuh ha ha. I rule.

mum has told me since i was little i am special.


Lost In Translation :D

**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**

Quote : Derek Flint
“I'd have that azz bouncing up and down like a low-rider in a Dr. Dre music video.”

Out-f*cking-standing lmao
 

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Rj is having fun.

If he isnt getting his hopes up too much it will probably work out for him. A phone number really isnt anything, but good for RJ nonetheless he feels a success and it is a small one. He is becoming a better man.

My recomendation is to just say to the girl when you see her, "Would you like to have sex with me tonight?" Seriously, that is my recomendation. Go for broke. You arent good enough to play it slow.

The shiit talking poosweeds are welcomed to post their radical successes.

Rj. Dont get your hopes up. You will probably fail to lay this girl. Next time you will do it better but probably fail again. After that you will probably have it right.

good luck.
 

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"giving an unearned gift is like rewarding your dog for ****ting on the carpet"

No that would be giving an undeserved gift. Giving your dog a treat because he likes you is giving and unearned gift.

Give no love, get no love.

Love all women, hate individual ones. Show it.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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