My friend does coke

[oakraiderz2]

Last night i found out my friend does cocaine. I had no idea that he did but he told me cause he says he wants to stop doing it. Now this kid isnt very open about ANYTHING personal such as this. I tried to help him but im not a psychologist so i dont know if it did any good. How can i help him? I know hes hanging out with this kid that does that sh*t a lot tonight. He says he wants to quit, but i dont know if its because he knows it can fvck him up or if he really wants to. He said i likes the way it feels so i know hes gonna struggle with it. He quit smoking cigarettes for new years resolution, and in turn started doing coke. What should i do? This kid pisses me off some times but im not gonna sit by and watch a friend destroy his life.

 

[Morphiex]

well basicly your gonna have to watch him 24 hours a day for like three four days to a week so that he goes cold turkey... thats gonna be hard for him cuz thats when hes really gonna want it ... but if u can keep him off it for a week or so ... then i think he can do the rest by himself.....

 

[Bible_Belt]

Coke makes a man's money disappear, his d!ck shrink, and his heart explode.

 

[STR8UP]

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
Coke makes a man's money disappear, his d!ck shrink, and his heart explode.

A guy that lived in my old condo complex died New Years Eve while doing alcohol, coke, and whio knows what else.

I have a couple of friends that do that stuff. It's best to avoid the sh!t, if that even needs to be said.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by oakraiderz2
He quit smoking cigarettes for new years resolution, and in turn started doing coke.

What?
in this short time there will be no addiction, tell him to pull him self together

 

[undesputable]

the root of his problem is his friends influence on him. not many people will go ahead and do coke without the influence of other people that already do it, bc everyone knows the dangers of it. All he can do is stop hanging out with that friend thats influencing him so strongly. Motivate him, encourage him to excercise do things he likes to do and gain real self confidence.

The only think coke does to you is make you feel like you just drank 10 cups of coffee and give you fake confidence which is what the people are addicted to. once that confidence is gone you want it back and you do more and more coke, trust me ive gone through this. Fortunatly it didnt take me long at all to realize that i could naturally feel confident, energized and on top of the world by doing the right things

 

[oakraiderz2]

Originally posted by undesputable
the root of his problem is his friends influence on him. not many people will go ahead and do coke without the influence of other people that already do it, bc everyone knows the dangers of it. All he can do is stop hanging out with that friend thats influencing him so strongly. Motivate him, encourage him to excercise do things he likes to do and gain real self confidence.

The only think coke does to you is make you feel like you just drank 10 cups of coffee and give you fake confidence which is what the people are addicted to. once that confidence is gone you want it back and you do more and more coke, trust me ive gone through this. Fortunatly it didnt take me long at all to realize that i could naturally feel confident, energized and on top of the world by doing the right things

I told him to try and say no once, it would get easier for him to say no. He knows he should stop hanging out with the people that to it but i know he wont. Hes one of those kids who strives for the approval of others. He used to sell pot and had an ego trip about that. Hes a server at a restaurant and one day i heard him tell kids to come in and he'll let them drink. I told him we'll go get some girls or some sh*t so he can have the confidence to say no and he'll get an andrenaline rush from something thats worth it. I know i cant do much but we'll see.

 

[Shiftkey]

If he's only been doing it for a week, he might not be physically addicted yet. But there's really nothing you can do except encourage him. He has to have the willpower to stop.

If you think he's been doing it for longer than a week, suggest to him that he starts going to Narcotics/Alcoholics Anonimous.

You might want to look into joining Al-Anon, which is a program for non-adicts with friends/family who are addicted to drugs.

 

[Create Reality]

One does not simply find drugs laying on the ground and go, "Hey, there's some drugs! Let's smoke them!"

... :crackup:

Oak I believe the best thing you can do is talk to him and root out the reason why he tried it, and attempt to replace this with something he finds highly enjoyable. This is almost like basic psychotherapy, and emotion will always override logic. He will stop once he finds something better to go to.

Crack kills, fuck yo couch. Peace out.

 

[splinterkb]

Nicotine is the only drug that is more addictive than cocaine. If he can quit cigs, he can quit the coke.

 

[oakraiderz2]

Originally posted by Create Reality
One does not simply find drugs laying on the ground and go, "Hey, there's some drugs! Let's smoke them!"

... :crackup:

Oak I believe the best thing you can do is talk to him and root out the reason why he tried it, and attempt to replace this with something he finds highly enjoyable. This is almost like basic psychotherapy, and emotion will always override logic. He will stop once he finds something better to go to.

Crack kills, fuck yo couch. Peace out.

He did it because he cant say no to the kids that do it cause for some reason he looks up to them. They were the "cool" kids in high school so thats part of the reason. Hes afraid to say no to them. Itll result in losing their approval which his fragile psyche cant take.

Nicotine is the only drug that is more addictive than cocaine. If he can quit cigs, he can quit the coke.

I dunno. He would only smoke when he was drunk. People arent gonna try to get him to smoke as they would try to get him to do some lines. I dont think he wants to quit with the coke. I feel he doesnt wanna do it because he knows its bad and where he might end up if he doesnt quit. With his thinking being like that hes chance arent as great as they could be. We'll see what happens, unfortunetly i dont think this is gonna end up good.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Good discussion all!

I'll add my point to how to stop your friend... make him suffer worse, give him the pain so he can gain. I've never had somebody take drugs in front of me that I didn't agree with. I know coke is bad, I hate the ****, my friends hate the ****, I'm not friends anymore with people who openly tell me they still do the ****.

Every time a new stupid ass tells me they want to do it, I tell them straight up don't make me suffer by me watching you do the stuff. I know it's people that influence them into doing it, and I tell them it's their friends that are telling them to be ****ed up, they've heard all the warnings, and of course they still don't understand them.

For the guys that said it's harder to quit cigs than coke, haven't heard of the term cold turkey, and I'm guessing they don't know ANYBODY that has ever quit smoking. I'm guessing that you also live in a closet, or you lie about things to yourself, that you know to be true.

My solution, to make my friends quit, is to trick them. I tell them what I'm going to do, I tell my friends around me what I'm going to do,I don't LIE to anybody anymore, especially not about something so serious, sure it's fun in the start, and you don't notice the problems right away, I say. Than I immediately tell them, I will ram their face into the coke if they ever do it in front of me, I tell them I don't care if you kick my ass, or get some friends to kick my ass, I'll be happy to lose somebody who doesn't want to be a true friend. Brutal honesty, it's my ****ing life now, I'm just having trouble being NICE to people for no ****ing reason. So I invite my friend over to my place, I want to see him doing some coke a few days later, and I invite the other friends that were there listening to us. Yeah it was dangerous, and I loved the rush of knowing what I was going to do. When he pulled it out, I told him I hate seeing him do this, I told him I loved him, and I'm sorry for anything I'm going to do. The stupid ****s never see it coming, even though I told them what I was going to do. The get there nose lined up with the dust, and I slap the tube away, and ram their face into the table, everybody gets shocked and angry, and I usually have to leave, I never really learned a lesson from it. My friends came back to me, after they stopped hurting me though, they had oneitis for the drug, and I used physical force to stop my own suffering from seeing my friend suffer.

Wish I could say it in a fun and nice way that wasn't dangerous, but it is a dangerous drug.

 

[American_Psycho]

Originally posted by Shiftkey
If he's only been doing it for a week, he might not be physically addicted yet.

Actually, it wouldn't matter if he's been doing it for 10 years because cocaine is not physically addictive. It's all psychological.

 

[PRMoon]

I persoanally have used/sold a good deal of the yeh-o. American Psycho is right it's all mental when it comes to addiction to the stuff. When you stop you won't go through any withdrawl period or notice too many physical differences like you would with say cigarettes.

The key to getting some one off cocaine is to tell them that you don't support their habit, offer them advice about treatment, then let the know you will not be there for them if they don't break the habit. If he's your friend he'll stop and if he's not he'll have to make other friends who will accept the life style. In either case you come out a winner because if he stops then he's a true friend and if he doesn't then he never was.

It was relatively easy for me to quit though, I didn't even have an interevention (mainly because just about every one I know had done it at some point or was still doing it...and becasue it's Vegas i suppose) as I don't have a very addictive personality. It may be harder for your friend to quit if he had trouble quitting smokes, he may be one of those people who has that urge that drives them to do more.

In essance you have to put the ball into his court and let him be his own person. Unless you're willing to get his family involved I'd just let him know how you feel, take your stance and see where the cards land. If he doesn't want to quit he won't and there's little you or any system can do to stop him. You could potentially lose a friend but unfortunately, that's life.

 

[Shiftkey]

Originally posted by American_Psycho
Actually, it wouldn't matter if he's been doing it for 10 years because cocaine is not physically addictive. It's all psychological.

Actually, the semantics are irrelevent. I was refering to addiction vs peer pressure, not psychological vs physical, which is in fact a misnomer anyway.

http://www.drugabuse.gov/Published_Articles/Essence.html

"The assumption that follows then is that the more dramatic the physical withdrawal symptoms, the more serious or dangerous the drug must be. Indeed, people always seem relieved to hear that a substance "just" produces psychological addiction, or has only minimal physical withdrawal symptoms. Then they discount its dangers. They are wrong."

 

[American_Psycho]

I'm not sure where exactly I discounted the severity of psychological addiction...But if you really don't think there's any difference, go visit a recovering heroin addict.

And seriously, what do you think a government-run site is going to tell you?

 

[ethnomethodologist]

I love pain, if it makes me stronger. If it's in my brain though, than it WILL drive me insane.

I still vote for you smashing his face in a table for every time you hear about him doing it. Just make the pain worse, if the initial phsyical shock isn't bad enough. Make him say he will quit, before he does anything else stupid. ****, treat him like my cat, lock him outside if he keeps asking for the stuff. Just force him any way you can, good or bad, to make him get away from it.

What was it I thought of the other day for my friend... He wanted to commit suicide, and I told him to puke out the pills NOW before he gets stuck suffering in the hospita for two weeks and possibly will ever be allowed to drink alcohol again and will have to piss in bag until he turns 50? Oh YEAH!!! I said I would lock him in my basement, and feed him only bread and water, until he learned his lesson.

Hope you come up with something less severe, nobody else has. Please share the knowledge you learn though, we are eager to listen!

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

 

[PRMoon]

Originally posted by American_Psycho
I'm not sure where exactly I discounted the severity of psychological addiction...But if you really don't think there's any difference, go visit a recovering heroin addict.

And seriously, what do you think a government-run site is going to tell you?

Eww nothing worse then seeing someone trying to recover from heroin! You can't hold your sh*t together, litterally! Psychological additction may be bad in some respect but it's way different then watching some poor bastard get off the needle. That stuff grips your very soul and when you see how skinny they are and what not, you really just want to put them out of their misery.

 

[ethnomethodologist]

Originally posted by American_Psycho
I'm not sure where exactly I discounted the severity of psychological addiction...But if you really don't think there's any difference, go visit a recovering heroin addict.

And seriously, what do you think a government-run site is going to tell you?

Somebody else will respond with something better than what I'm about to say. I want to know just how far off I really am from the truth though, and how to deal better in the future. It is the essence of Sosuave that is driving me to speak at the moment... oooh scary ghosts sounds... and STOP. Okay back to reality...

They are talking COCAINE, not heroin you retard. Coke goes to the nose, so it hits your brain faster. Not your blood stream so it hits your body. You are fart knocker man, and I don't think you know what you are even talking about.

 

[Prophett]

I don't know where you get your facts from but cocaine is physically addictive!

They are talking COCAINE, not heroin you retard. Coke goes to the nose, so it hits your brain faster. Not your blood stream so it hits your body. You are fart knocker man, and I don't think you know what you are even talking about.

Dude, heroin can be snorted just as it can be injected or smoked. The same goes for coke.