"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My Friday night Field Report

Canadian Catnip

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Went out to a local bar and ordered a non-alcoholic drink. Spotted two ladies around my age range sitting at the bar. One a hb7 the other a hb5.5. I approached within 3 seconds and did the Cologne opener. Spray two different Colognes on your wrists and ask them to judge for you which one I should keep. In order to DHV I said the one on my right wrist was from my ex-girlfriend and the one one my left was from my Ex-ex-girlfriend.

I made sure I faces away from the HB7 as she was my target, I gave most of my attention to the hb5.5. HB7 kept grabbing my wrist over and over again. Let me smell them again she said, and would grab me by the wrist again to smell.

We joked for a few minutes and the HB7 seemed to be into me. I kept turning away from her and she kept trying to get my attention.

A trick that style talks about is to always act like you are just about to walk away from them.

So I pretend to start to walk away and the HB7 asks me my name and grabs my arm. I turn back knowing its on with her. I give her my name and she tells me hers and shakes my hand, her friend shakes my hand and says her name.

So I ask them how do they know each other? The hb5.5 says "We used to Fvck" and looks at her friend the hb7. The hb7 starts laughing and covers her face. Then the hb5.5 says "Well I'm just being honest".

I know its on now but I was not expecting her to say that so I get a bit flustered. I started to lose it after that. They had turned the conversation to Fvcking and I did not know how to go along with the thread.

They lost interest in me about a minute later, because I could not keep up the conversation at their level. They said, well it was nice meeting you and they both got up and left the bar. DAM.

Sometimes we get success and were not ready for it. I know that if I had been ready for that kind of talk I would have been in on maybe a threesome but I did not know how to pull it off.

Any advice out there from and DJ's or PUA's on what they would have said when you ask two women at the bar how they know each other and they respond, "We used to Fvck"?

How should I have handled sex talk from the ladies? Please remember I am new at this approach stuff and I don't have the experience that other guys have here. This has never happened to me like this so any advice to help me out next time would be appreciated.

In hindsight I just thought of a response to that comment. Perhaps I should have said with a smile "Well, everyone loves Pvssy!" Do you think that would be a C&F response?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Canadian Catnip said:
Went out to a local bar and ordered a non-alcoholic drink. Spotted two ladies around my age range sitting at the bar. One a hb7 the other a hb5.5. I approached within 3 seconds and did the Cologne opener. Spray two different Colognes on your wrists and ask them to judge for you which one I should keep. In order to DHV I said the one on my right wrist was from my ex-girlfriend and the one one my left was from my Ex-ex-girlfriend.

I made sure I faces away from the HB7 as she was my target, I gave most of my attention to the hb5.5. HB7 kept grabbing my wrist over and over again. Let me smell them again she said, and would grab me by the wrist again to smell.

We joked for a few minutes and the HB7 seemed to be into me. I kept turning away from her and she kept trying to get my attention.

A trick that style talks about is to always act like you are just about to walk away from them.

So I pretend to start to walk away and the HB7 asks me my name and grabs my arm. I turn back knowing its on with her. I give her my name and she tells me hers and shakes my hand, her friend shakes my hand and says her name.

So I ask them how do they know each other? The hb5.5 says "We used to Fvck" and looks at her friend the hb7. The hb7 starts laughing and covers her face. Then the hb5.5 says "Well I'm just being honest".

I know its on now but I was not expecting her to say that so I get a bit flustered. I started to lose it after that. They had turned the conversation to Fvcking and I did not know how to go along with the thread.

They lost interest in me about a minute later, because I could not keep up the conversation at their level. They said, well it was nice meeting you and they both got up and left the bar. DAM.

Sometimes we get success and were not ready for it. I know that if I had been ready for that kind of talk I would have been in on maybe a threesome but I did not know how to pull it off.

Any advice out there from and DJ's or PUA's on what they would have said when you ask two women at the bar how they know each other and they respond, "We used to Fvck"?

How should I have handled sex talk from the ladies? Please remember I am new at this approach stuff and I don't have the experience that other guys have here. This has never happened to me like this so any advice to help me out next time would be appreciated.

In hindsight I just thought of a response to that comment. Perhaps I should have said with a smile "Well, everyone loves Pvssy!" Do you think that would be a C&F response?
i can relate to you a bit on this one. Last night i went to a lounge again with friends and I go just to have a good time and relax, not really to get with thee girls since i have one of my own but anyway, Im sitting on a stool with my drink on the table and these two girls, both cute, glance over at me and gave me some EC. so once i mad EC with them, they look at me one more time and then start making out with each other for a quick 5 seconds then glance over at me laughing. Dude, i didnt know what to think or say lol. Although i wasnt trying to get with anybody,... I was still wondering "What would i say to them". I truly believe i could of F-closed both of them that night if i layed down my cards and played it right.
 

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Maybe you guys are hanging at Lesbian bars???
Seriously, reminds me of a time when a buddy and I were having a great time with to legit dancers and asked what they did for fun, one said "We pick up guys in bars and give them blow jobs" and then proceeded to demonstrate on a ketchup bottle.
My friend and I were stunned and ended up leaving with two cougars and making out think about the dancers.
I still slap my head but I don't know if I will ever be DJ ready enough for that line again, but I will welcome these tests!
 

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Perhaps I should have said with a smile "Well, everyone loves Pvssy!" Do you think that would be a C&F response?
hmm i would have said "used 2 fvk?? lets relight that fire ;) u 2 are coming to my place"
 

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I would've taken it as a sh!t test and replied by saying "cool" or just ignoring it and moving on to something else.

One thing I'm getting from the post is that you're relying to much on the routines. This will mess you up in the long run because you can have 6 hours of routines but once it's over you have nothing to say because you think what you really have to say isn't good enough.

So just a rule of thumb if you're using routines mainly use it for...
- Opening and actually getting in the set
- The first few minutes after you've got in the set
- When it seems you may lose the set or if its getting boring

Try to just be useful and using routines at the same time. Instead of the routines being a crutch it will be a game enhancer.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Snow Plowman said:
I would've taken it as a sh!t test and replied by saying "cool" or just ignoring it and moving on to something else.

One thing I'm getting from the post is that you're relying to much on the routines. This will mess you up in the long run because you can have 6 hours of routines but once it's over you have nothing to say because you think what you really have to say isn't good enough.

So just a rule of thumb if you're using routines mainly use it for...
- Opening and actually getting in the set
- The first few minutes after you've got in the set
- When it seems you may lose the set or if its getting boring

Try to just be useful and using routines at the same time. Instead of the routines being a crutch it will be a game enhancer.

Actually I think I said something like, "Wow, I'm speechless. Want to see a trick" and showed them the wing wing wing trick with a dollar bill.

I didn't bite, it had the look and feel of bait all over it. I felt that if I took the bait I would come across as another horny AFC hitting on them.

I did the wing wing wing trick to DHV to the HB7.

Don't know what the wing wing wing trick is? Here is a video of Style doing it from YouTube. Trick part starts at 1:50 into video. Very funny stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF31wjJHVPA
 

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Actually they left after I did the wing wing wing trick on them.

Sorry I had two beers after I got home while I was writing my field report so I had forgotten that part. I did the wing wing wing trick and they laughed and then left.

I guess when sex is brought up by the women you don't do stupid tricks.
 

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RAFCbearfilm said:
Maybe you guys are hanging at Lesbian bars???
Seriously, reminds me of a time when a buddy and I were having a great time with to legit dancers and asked what they did for fun, one said "We pick up guys in bars and give them blow jobs" and then proceeded to demonstrate on a ketchup bottle.
My friend and I were stunned and ended up leaving with two cougars and making out think about the dancers.
I still slap my head but I don't know if I will ever be DJ ready enough for that line again, but I will welcome these tests!
Are you F**kin SERIOUS!?? LoL.
 
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