"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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my fone game sucks

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so i had a good date with this girl even kissed closed and everything but i can never talk to her on the fone comfortably and i think its about to ruin my sex close :(

i met her through a mutual friend and he was finding out info for me and this is wat he said

no shes nt bein able 2 connect on a personal level i think c i was satin u need 2 talk 2 her more

so what can i do ?? i cant seem to think of anyway to connect and i know if i could its garunteed for me
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I'm in the Mood

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keep your convos short and spend more time chillin with her and talkin to her in person until you're more comfortable talking to her on the phone.

lol phone game, thats a riot. good thing your goal isn't phone sex.
 

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obviously my goal isnt phone sex, i can text and be charming etc but when i talk on da fone i can never be as comfortable
 

I'm in the Mood

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lmao charming texts what a playa.

seriously man talk to her as if ur talking to her in person. you may have to spend more time with her in person to accomplish this. theres not much else u can do, but this is easy just hang with her more often.
 

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You all have a fully functioning keyboard right? Save "text talk" for texting. With the economy what it is and unemployment high; I have no problem tossing resume's with "text" in them. Don't get bad habits and don't let them stop you from getting a job. Eating is still more important than $crewing.

For the rest of it, meeting in person is better anyway;just use the phone to set up the date. End the conversation quickly[you are busy and have other things to do-EVEN if you don't. SHE can't be the most important thing in your life]
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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magickarl

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So?

Don't talk to her on the phone then.
When you do, keep it short.

The phone should be for business (set up dates, handle important issues)
Save the "game" for when you are face-to-face.
 

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ive been here for 3 years nearly and the whole pickup thing doesnt work on every girl, the way i see it is that it all depends on the girl your with, if shes into the whole club scene and guys hitting her all the time negs will be effective, but now imagine you meet a girl who is not allowed out at nighttime and has never been clubbing, she also didnt use to be attractive when she was a teenager but now shes become a 7-8 so she still has low self esteem, i didnt take into account all of this, but i went to see her anyway

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=158252


thats what happened when i went to see her and if i had not smelt so amazing that she wanted to be close to me i dont think the date would of gone so well because i couldnt ask the right questions to open her up, but because of all the kino i think she was up for it. now this is a girl who likes to talk all da time and she will always say things like how u wat u doing everyday the same questions, and i can never develop it into a proper convo.

so i told my friend who set it all up to log into my facebook and start talking to her and she was responding on levels i didnt think was possible, she thought it was me obviously but it seems the problem is with me and i dont know how to fix it. she will send me some **** tease text messages which i will flirt back with. just last night after that conversation on facebook which my friend took she text me when he logged out, so he told me to text im gonna go sleep go uni early in the morning but im gonna dream about being in bed with u. she replied back... hmmm sounds gud ill dream abt u n me umm ;) speak 2 u 2mrow nite nite mwah xxx


i know people are saying dont phone it unless ur meeting it in person but shes not the type of girl with the busiest of lifestyles so she will msg me or talk to me on the fone and if i dont she will assume that theres something wrong instead of her wondering about me in a good way. i know if i talk to her and connect personally then the lay will be there.

so there u have it 3 years here and still a flop lol
 

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I dont understand why this is such a dilemma. Sure phonecalls can be awkward sometimes..even business ones, but if you've gotta do it, just bite the bullet and do it...as long as you keep relaxed and dont get flustered you will be fine.
 

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djinhell said:
Sure phonecalls can be awkward sometimes..even business ones, but if you've gotta do it, just bite the bullet and do it
And we have a word for people who don't have the balls to do this.

(It's "AFC" in case you were wondering.)

To be honest, calling someone shouldn't take balls. It's simple. Don't think about it, just dial the number, hold the phone to your ear, and smile.

The more you do it, the better you will get.
 

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its not even about balls, if i didnt have balls i wouldnt of bothered to meet it in person i wouldnt of bothered to kiss close if i didnt have the balls i would just end up sitting at home masterbating all day, its not the lack of balls its the lack of communication skills with the opposite sex, i dont even know why its like certain girls i cant get to shut up but when i start to like them they just wont talk :S
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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You need to practice, practice, practice. Keep the phone calls with a certain amount of energy, enthusiasm, and fun factor so you guys won't be bored and dread talking on phone. Start out small and try to talk for like 5 minutes for the first few days. Then, gradually increase talk-time. Talk about anything that's interesting or current in your lives. Try to keep the conversations light-hearted, C&F humorous, and anything else non-serious.

Like you said, if you don't learn to talk on phone with her your chances of getting some ***** from her goes down so your gonna have to man up, make the phone calls, and keep her entertained so she'll be wanting more of you.
 
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