"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

My first LJFB?

Flabbergasped?

Master Don Juan
Joined
May 14, 2005
Messages
539
Reaction score
12
This chick who lives in my hall, I want to bone her.

So anyway, we see each other often, since we live so close, but I don't actually talk to her. Lots of negs, C&F, all that good stuff. It's a pretty solid interaction, I figured I shouldn't rush into anything and make things awkward in our hall.

So, I'm in her room studying, since I'm locked out of mine. Her roommates are there at first, but then they leave. I don't notice this until I'm heading back, so I could have made a move. I thought they were in another room.

During this time though, she asks me if some other dude, who I hang out with, has a gf. She specifically says, "you know that cute guy *name*, does he have a gf?" Of course, I answer, "I don't know, I'm not a PI."

Once she dropped that line, I figured I've been LJBF'd, and I'm just gonna try to ease the way for my buddy to get her. Still kinda wierd though, since I didn't do anything that would lead to LJBF, short of not cavemaning her. Maybe that's what's necessary?

Could be looks too, he's an athlete and a lot hotter than me, no homo. :D
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

KontrollerX

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 11, 2005
Messages
4,476
Reaction score
182
Meh, don't even help her.

Just ignore her as much as possible.
 

roman

Don Juan
Joined
Jul 8, 2004
Messages
40
Reaction score
1
Location
New York, NY
she's testing you, not LJBFing. it's a test to a) see if you get jealous and b) make you think you have competition so you will make a move. she is testing you because she likes you, so take it as an IOI and frame your reaction accordingly.
 

Victory Unlimited

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 3, 2005
Messages
1,357
Reaction score
313
Location
On the Frontlines
Yeah FLAB, and if you have ABSOLUTELY nothing better to do, whenever you see her, feed her back some of her same medicine:

Lust after other chicks in HER presence, and even ask her to hook you up with some of her friends and acquaintances. Your mission is to come across like the BIGGEST pimp/sexhound/hookup artist that she has EVER encountered.

And just to give you a mental image to inspire you, ALWAYS envision yourself as the Big Bad WOLF whenever you're around her. Except you're NOT necessarily salivating over HER, but rather EVERY OTHER chick BUT "her".

And oh yeah, always imagine yourself grabbing your own NUTS while you're talking to her too. And the REASON you're doing this is JUST to remind yourself that you are ALWAYS a mutherfukkin' MAN!!!

(But PLEASE don't go around grabbing your nuts "literally", though... otherwise she'll just confuse you with being a pervert, or worse yet----a "RAPPER"...lol).


Peace...one day.
 

ligyron

Don Juan
Joined
Sep 9, 2007
Messages
74
Reaction score
0
the next time she gives you any kind of obvious IOI or is nice somehow, say something like "cool. you're such a nice friend you know that" and leave. "nice" and "friend", 2 magically words to get her thinking. girls know the power of LJBF on guys, use it right back on her. it's like a false disqualifier
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

Read more...

Rollo Tomassi

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 4, 2004
Messages
5,307
Reaction score
343
Age
58
Location
Nevada
Lets Just Be Friends

And yes, this is called a proactive LJBF. When a woman preemptively inserts details about her BF in casual conversation with little or no prompting, this is a proactive LJBF. This girl is just practicing a variation of this.
 

Python

Don Juan
Joined
Aug 1, 2007
Messages
52
Reaction score
1
roman said:
she's testing you, not LJBFing. it's a test to a) see if you get jealous and b) make you think you have competition so you will make a move. she is testing you because she likes you, so take it as an IOI and frame your reaction accordingly.
That's along the lines I was thinking.
 

Luveno

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 15, 2004
Messages
1,107
Reaction score
12
Age
44
You are overthinking. Everyone here is overthinking. What she said means nothing. The only thing that will have any meaning is when she either refuses or accepts your advances. As of yet, you've not made any.

Go get em, soldier!
 
Top