A few weeks ago at my friends house party I met this hottie from this exotic country called Azerbizan her name is vikki I could see she is the alpha female in the group, making fun of guys, claiming to be the ****...she shook my hand and said I had soft hands like a woman and from then on, I played game on her, she was loving it role playing back and forth she even admitted she is a nympho. My cell phone rang and it is another girl who was calling me, she is my "friend with benefits HB7" and loves to pimp me to other women, because I learned to be very good in bed, and for some reason when a woman gets it good she can not keep her mouth shut to to her friends so she loves to advertise for me and when I add a little game its all good, in fact it becomes very easy...anyways. The two start talking about me, and vikki asks if I am a good Lay, and they begin to talk about me for a while, her mouth droped and she was speechless..she said wow I hear your very good in bed and she recomends you highly. I was speechless and lost it, this was an alpha female broken in front of me, ready to go and I was drunk and speechless. I told her she could stand in line and wait for a shot at it....so I stayed around for a bit and danced, she came over and joined me we danced for a bit bumping and grinding, but the booty call came to pick me up. I left and thought nothing of it until a few days ago when I saw her friend that invited vikki to the party that night....she said that vikki enjoyed meeting me that night and loved my dance moves, they were hypnotic and she found me very charming and I should visit her at the bar she works at as a bartender......I NEED ADVICE....do I go alone.....bring another woman....go with friends...do I continue the thread of being sexual...or?....My plan is to go with another woman I am working on I think it would be fun...but advice would be appreciated...
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
My first HB9, need some advice
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
This is an easy one.
Go with a girl. But make sure she is just a friend. The one on the phone would be ideal.
This will force the HB9 to work for you attention. Don't just hand it to her on a plate. Then when you get there, have a drink, bla bla and tell her you can't stay long and ask her what time she finishes. Then arrange to meet her after work. Chances are, once she sees you, she will be wanting to find out exactly how good you are.
For abit of added fun, you could pull a classic on her:
During your brief conversation at the bar, as soon as she is feeling good, smiling, so on... tell her the "i have to go, lets meet after you finish, bla bla" line and then....
....ask her to hold on to something that belongs to you. a ring, necklace, anything that she can keep looking at and remember the good feeling for the rest of the evening until she sees you again. But make sure you say "this is still mine, you have to give it back to me when you see me later on"
She will be nice and ripe when she sees you later on my man...
Let us know how you get on...
Go with a girl. But make sure she is just a friend. The one on the phone would be ideal.
This will force the HB9 to work for you attention. Don't just hand it to her on a plate. Then when you get there, have a drink, bla bla and tell her you can't stay long and ask her what time she finishes. Then arrange to meet her after work. Chances are, once she sees you, she will be wanting to find out exactly how good you are.
For abit of added fun, you could pull a classic on her:
During your brief conversation at the bar, as soon as she is feeling good, smiling, so on... tell her the "i have to go, lets meet after you finish, bla bla" line and then....
....ask her to hold on to something that belongs to you. a ring, necklace, anything that she can keep looking at and remember the good feeling for the rest of the evening until she sees you again. But make sure you say "this is still mine, you have to give it back to me when you see me later on"
She will be nice and ripe when she sees you later on my man...
Let us know how you get on...
GodsGiftToFatBirds
Senior Don Juan
My opinion here is that when you have a girl coming onto you as blatent as that, you should leave out the c+f and just go for it. She's already attracted to you, you don't need the c+f, just caveman her. She wanted you right then, you should have took advantage!
Update With Field Report
I finally went out to the bar where she worked and had a few drinks played some game and went home...here is what happened.....I went with my "wing" who is female, she is now considered a Don Juana because even women have issues in dealing with men so we study toghether and go out in the field it is alot of fun, the only thing she wants is sex for being my wing....anyways we walk in at 6pm but the bartender is not there....I thought maybe she was off...so we began to have a few drinks...I had more than I should I was very very very drunk then at about 7pm I get a "Hey...hi how are you" I turned around smiled and said..Hello Vicki..nice to see you. She ignored the woman with me wanted to know why I havent been around to the bar yet. I told her that I was busy...and did not want to waste my money at the bar...I will only drink if a woman pays...she said your tab is on me tonight, drink away I told her I have to becareful or else someone might take advantage of me...she laughed and said your right...I hear things about you and it might be worth taking advantage of....sooo she turns to my "wing" and says....who is she, I replied, that she was attempting to do just that get me drunk and take advantage of me....and my wing winked at her and smiled...she was speechless..and walked away...came by later and told me her schedule, wrote down her number..and told me I have to come back...but without women. I told her that the bar sucks I will not be back but if I am not busy I will call..sooo...I was really drunk by now...but I am a funny drunk so it adds a little.and wanted to go home...sooo..I yelled at my wing ...I AM NOT A SEX TOY..I WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND LISTEN TO YOUR PROBLEMS, BUY YOU STUFF, CALL YOU A 100 TIMES A DAY, PLEASE I AM DRUNK DO NOT TAKE ME HOME WITH YOU..all of the women laughed, the guys were like look at this idiot.. but all of the ladies looked and even smiled at me I knew they were listening...anyways we left...and I lost the phone number somewhere I was like ****...but I know she really wants to get toghether because she called her friend that told me that she was interested and she said you better make sure that he calls me and we go out..I want him...so I get a call at 3am from that friend and she told me all of it...and said to call I said I will in a few days and I got the number again which is good...then I went to puke I got drunk off of good SCOTCH 32$ a glass...hey it was free so why not...
I LOVE THIS GAME...in September 2005 I almost committed suicde over a woman who broke my heart but I decided that I would not be a victim any longer..so I found DYD, and now Don Juan forum...and now I have "WING" and even a f--- buddy as a result of all this...and yet this is the begining
I finally went out to the bar where she worked and had a few drinks played some game and went home...here is what happened.....I went with my "wing" who is female, she is now considered a Don Juana because even women have issues in dealing with men so we study toghether and go out in the field it is alot of fun, the only thing she wants is sex for being my wing....anyways we walk in at 6pm but the bartender is not there....I thought maybe she was off...so we began to have a few drinks...I had more than I should I was very very very drunk then at about 7pm I get a "Hey...hi how are you" I turned around smiled and said..Hello Vicki..nice to see you. She ignored the woman with me wanted to know why I havent been around to the bar yet. I told her that I was busy...and did not want to waste my money at the bar...I will only drink if a woman pays...she said your tab is on me tonight, drink away I told her I have to becareful or else someone might take advantage of me...she laughed and said your right...I hear things about you and it might be worth taking advantage of....sooo she turns to my "wing" and says....who is she, I replied, that she was attempting to do just that get me drunk and take advantage of me....and my wing winked at her and smiled...she was speechless..and walked away...came by later and told me her schedule, wrote down her number..and told me I have to come back...but without women. I told her that the bar sucks I will not be back but if I am not busy I will call..sooo...I was really drunk by now...but I am a funny drunk so it adds a little.and wanted to go home...sooo..I yelled at my wing ...I AM NOT A SEX TOY..I WANT TO BE YOUR FRIEND LISTEN TO YOUR PROBLEMS, BUY YOU STUFF, CALL YOU A 100 TIMES A DAY, PLEASE I AM DRUNK DO NOT TAKE ME HOME WITH YOU..all of the women laughed, the guys were like look at this idiot.. but all of the ladies looked and even smiled at me I knew they were listening...anyways we left...and I lost the phone number somewhere I was like ****...but I know she really wants to get toghether because she called her friend that told me that she was interested and she said you better make sure that he calls me and we go out..I want him...so I get a call at 3am from that friend and she told me all of it...and said to call I said I will in a few days and I got the number again which is good...then I went to puke I got drunk off of good SCOTCH 32$ a glass...hey it was free so why not...
I LOVE THIS GAME...in September 2005 I almost committed suicde over a woman who broke my heart but I decided that I would not be a victim any longer..so I found DYD, and now Don Juan forum...and now I have "WING" and even a f--- buddy as a result of all this...and yet this is the begining
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
you lost.
Already.
Yeah, she WANTED to **** you, it couldn't be more ovbious.
If a girl ever tells you that she hears that you are good in bed, for the love of god, rent a hotel room in the next 10 mintues.
I mean, what are you waiting for, her to give you a handjob in public?
she can't be anymore direct, now she is either wondering why you aren't attracted to her and her interest is dying down, or she is talking to someone else.
Because if you weren't at that party, do you really think she wouldn't have been flirting with someone else?
You only get a certain window with women.. now, granted it takes different amounts of time in different situtations to get in that window. But when it's open you gotta jump in.
I remember my old oneitis... 2 years I chased her. 2 freakin years. Then one night, she was being flirty with me.. I was more stunned than happy. Then she had me take her to the nearest park... at 4 oclock in the morning. I was too scared to close the deal, even though she was literarly rubbing my chest.
You can guess what happened after that.
What's up with this "my friend told her friend this about me and we talked about blah blah blah".. dude you are a 28 year old MAN.
Men don't gossip or talk on the phone like little teenage girls about who is hot or who isn't. Leave that to women.
I mean the phone isn't a devil or anything, but so what if she told such and such this, or did this while she was on the phone.
All that matters in this entire situtation, is that she meet you at a BAR, told you she thinks you are good in bed, and you didn't ****.
Funny thing.. I don't have a wingman.. I mean, I have FRIENDs, but when I go out, it's usually alone. I perfer it that way. Don't know why, always have. Usually when my friends go out with me, they want to sit on the wall, and I am too social of a person for that.
Already.
Yeah, she WANTED to **** you, it couldn't be more ovbious.
If a girl ever tells you that she hears that you are good in bed, for the love of god, rent a hotel room in the next 10 mintues.
I mean, what are you waiting for, her to give you a handjob in public?
she can't be anymore direct, now she is either wondering why you aren't attracted to her and her interest is dying down, or she is talking to someone else.
Because if you weren't at that party, do you really think she wouldn't have been flirting with someone else?
You only get a certain window with women.. now, granted it takes different amounts of time in different situtations to get in that window. But when it's open you gotta jump in.
I remember my old oneitis... 2 years I chased her. 2 freakin years. Then one night, she was being flirty with me.. I was more stunned than happy. Then she had me take her to the nearest park... at 4 oclock in the morning. I was too scared to close the deal, even though she was literarly rubbing my chest.
You can guess what happened after that.
What's up with this "my friend told her friend this about me and we talked about blah blah blah".. dude you are a 28 year old MAN.
Men don't gossip or talk on the phone like little teenage girls about who is hot or who isn't. Leave that to women.
I mean the phone isn't a devil or anything, but so what if she told such and such this, or did this while she was on the phone.
All that matters in this entire situtation, is that she meet you at a BAR, told you she thinks you are good in bed, and you didn't ****.
Funny thing.. I don't have a wingman.. I mean, I have FRIENDs, but when I go out, it's usually alone. I perfer it that way. Don't know why, always have. Usually when my friends go out with me, they want to sit on the wall, and I am too social of a person for that.
Badmannaz
Master Don Juan
i would have said go alone but the next time you go you need to go alone...F*ck her and then you can move on with your life
damnbugs
Don Juan
^Best advice!
You need to make your move- you are taking too long enjoying her chasing you and she is going to give up on the chase.
Good to hear of your choice to live your life and not throw it away like so many the take the easy way out. We all go through trials in life and these are what make us stronger in the end!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thanks for the help fellow DJ's...more deveolpements
Backbreaker...your response hit home..thanks
Thank you for all of your responses im a stupid a$$ for not taking advantage of the fact that she wanted it right then and there..I pu$$ied out when the game starts working I freak out..sorry I am sstill learning..which messed with my head..but now I know....here is what happened today..less than 24 hours after ....she called her friend got my number and left a message that said...."I usually am not this blunt but I have to get my point across to you... I want you, not to date or to be best friends, I just want you.....I am free Saturday night only, we can get a few drinks hit the club and go back to my apartment and go at it like teenagers on prom night..call me back" I do and tell her lets do things in reverse order so that I could the rest of my night paid for...she laughed and we are on for Saturday evening.....fewwwww...almost messed it up.....timing is everything...I will be doing her for the honor of the community.
Thanks for your tips....
Backbreaker...your response hit home..thanks
Thank you for all of your responses im a stupid a$$ for not taking advantage of the fact that she wanted it right then and there..I pu$$ied out when the game starts working I freak out..sorry I am sstill learning..which messed with my head..but now I know....here is what happened today..less than 24 hours after ....she called her friend got my number and left a message that said...."I usually am not this blunt but I have to get my point across to you... I want you, not to date or to be best friends, I just want you.....I am free Saturday night only, we can get a few drinks hit the club and go back to my apartment and go at it like teenagers on prom night..call me back" I do and tell her lets do things in reverse order so that I could the rest of my night paid for...she laughed and we are on for Saturday evening.....fewwwww...almost messed it up.....timing is everything...I will be doing her for the honor of the community.
Thanks for your tips....
Badmannaz
Master Don Juan
way 2 go my man...bang her like a porn star
DisobeyThePope
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agreed
damnbugs
Don Juan
You got lucky- I thought for sure she would have bailed by now.
Make sure you don't screw things up on Saturday, its a sure thing- there is nothing to be afraid of or nervous about.
Best of luck!
Make sure you don't screw things up on Saturday, its a sure thing- there is nothing to be afraid of or nervous about.
Best of luck!
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
let me tell you something...
my game went from JUCO to the NBA level when I realized that "the game" isn't about learning how to do stuff, but listening and doing what you really want to do.
In other words, that entire time you were with her, you wanted to **** her. Then **** her, or try to. Odds are she wants to **** you to. It's crossed her mind at least.
It's like instead of learning how to do new things, you are deprorgamming an old way of thinking, because that's what it really is.
Alot of the stuff I do comes so natrual, because it's what I wanted in the first place.
my game went from JUCO to the NBA level when I realized that "the game" isn't about learning how to do stuff, but listening and doing what you really want to do.
In other words, that entire time you were with her, you wanted to **** her. Then **** her, or try to. Odds are she wants to **** you to. It's crossed her mind at least.
It's like instead of learning how to do new things, you are deprorgamming an old way of thinking, because that's what it really is.
Alot of the stuff I do comes so natrual, because it's what I wanted in the first place.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.