"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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My first approach... need some advice

thedoc

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Whatsup guys,

So today, I'm finally completely recovered from some virus and I decided enough reading up on all of this, lets try something. So I decided to take 2 friends and go to the mall. Please note, I've never tried approaching random women nor am I too familiar with picking up girls.

I get to the mall, and I was in shock. There were NO girls, AT all. After an hour I saw one cute girl with her mom and I wasn't ready for that. There was one girl waiting around which I tried approaching but she gave me the coldest shoulder I've ever seen. I tried making eye contact, she avoided it completely. When I was right in front of her she basically makes a 180 degree turn with her upper body, and avoids me. I ***** out on her.

Anyway, ffter another hour, on my way out, I decide to check Hollister one last time. I get in, and I see 2 girls (finally!) waiting around doing nothing. I was really nervous but I just thought to my self (fvck it, I'll regret this if I don't go up). I take 2 shirts, one was alright one was (imo) disgusting.

Me: Hey, would you girls mind helping me out. Which of these shirts do you think look better? Which would match my eyes?
Girl(s): *Laugh*Um, well what do you need it for?
Me: Well I'm going to a beach party later.
Girl(s): This one. And pick one. (they picked the ugly one)
Me: Really? I think it looks kinda cheesy.
Girl: Oh. *turns around asks her friend*
Me: Eh, I don't like it, it matches your shirt though. *Big smile*
Girls: *Laugh A LOT*

Okay, from here, is was a major fail on my part. I had NO IDEA, where to go next. I had a few closers in mind but it was too soon, and I had no clue how to transfer from this to that.

I was only nervous before, I (at least I don't think) was very confident and smiley during the first part.

So any advice on how to start a conversation out of the blue? I have to go like right now I'll come back and add a few more details later.

Thanks a lot guys.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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It's-Me

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Keep approaching :)
It's a numbers game, the more approach, the better you get, the more success you get.
 

thedoc

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But any ideas?? Even a canned transition or two would be really helpful. :)

Looking back, there was a lot of stuff I could have said. But hindsight is always 20/20.

Thanks.
 

eaglez1177

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Try to relax and be comfortable, being uptight and nervous will just make it harder for you to think of something to say.

And canned lines never work, you need to just become comfortable enough that you can say whatever you want and whatever comes to your mind.

As for your approach, dont let the girl's laughing get to you (if it bothers you). They could be laughing for a million different reasons, so just play it off as nothing.

I would suggest reading the bible and reading up on "the art of conversation" by Pulse. That will help you out alot, but you should really read the entire bible.

And getting better at this is all about practice. Practice makes perfect, the more you go out and approach, the better you will get.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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