Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You need to get laid by another girl. Switch girls as necessary.Mikeman! said:Francisco d'Anconia : I slept with another girl. a few times it didn't help.
Mikeman! said:It is going to bug me though not knowing for sure if she is infact married or not. The guy DID move from Atlanta to Arkansas for her, and she did a background check on him as well to be sure this guy was who he said he was(as crazy as that is). If this guy moved all this way, I'm sure it was with the intent of marrying her. I guess there is no real way to really know...
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I supposed he met her once. And probably was not given the opportunity to fvck her. This man must be out of his mind. A LDR with no fvcking is crazy.Latinoman said:Did you actually "see" this woman in REAL life? Did you have sex with her?
Is this one of those Internet chicks?
Mikeman! said:***UPDATE***
Firstly, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed their wisdom to this thread, it truly did help me...
Just thought I'd give you guys an update on whats going on with me...Life is good...I have 2 other women I'm seeing, I've been taking salsa lessons, going out with friends, keeping myself busy....I've been promoted to a managerial position at work. Everything is going well and although she's still on my mind daily, it doesn't hurt anywhere near as much as it did 1 month ago.
In fact, after she had sent me a message saying "I wanted to let you know I'm married, I won't be coming on here anymore, hope all is well", I blocked her on MSN, I realized this is not the woman I thought I knew and I didn't want anything to do with her. Two weeks later she comes on MSN(after saying she wouldn't anymore) and realizes I'm offline(In reality she is blocked) then sends me a short phone e-mail saying "U okay?". She proceeds to check if I'm online 4 days out of that week.
It's now a week later and I come home from work noticing she's online AGAIN and I have *3* e-mails sent to me in 1 day spaced out 3 hours apart...
1st one telling me "If you still have this email please write back, I want to talk to you, my husband is out for a few days I think we should talk. are you ok?
2nd one "You're always offline, will you please talk to me???"
3rd "Hey hey hey...mike..mike...poke poke...I'm talking to you, are you listening?"
I now see her true nature, and realize she is of the narcissistic/freak personality..But this is getting out of hand...I'm GUESSING she can't fu*k this husband of hers since she has me on her mind the whole time and is feeling guilty and just wants closure. Part of me wants to completely ignore her and not give her that, if thats what she wants. Another part of me wants to reply indifferently, telling her to move on, without me in her life...and the last to somehow acquire her as a LD FB if possible(I would not let myself get attached to her again by keeping other girls as primarys).
Regardless, I'm feeling better and will not be falling into that same trap again, but what do you think she's after?
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Now you can really see what she would have been like in any type of relationship. If she really is married just re-read that quote again. Now that is respect isn't it?mikeman said:1st one telling me "If you still have this email please write back, I want to talk to you, my husband is out for a few days I think we should talk. are you ok?
...its one thing to have a bunch of emails, but please tell us that you are not 'checking' to see if she is online. That will just keep the obsession going.mikeman said:It's now a week later and I come home from work noticing she's online AGAIN and I have *3* e-mails sent to me in 1 day spaced out 3 hours apart...
Attention.Mikeman! said:Regardless, I'm feeling better and will not be falling into that same trap again, but what do you think she's after?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
This will be swift. You have to rid yourself of this disease called LDR. It's nothing more than a control application from phony b!tches who scour the internet for clingy,needy wussbags (sorry brother but that's what you are) such as yourself. This cvnt had no intentions of leaving her old man for you. You have been her emotional tampax and attentive pooch.Mikeman! said:I am in UTTER SHOCK and DISBELIEF....I constantly feel like I'm about to throw up...my insides are hurting like nothing else. Every day, I've still been thinking about her even though I don't want to...she pops into my head 15-20 times a day, for 1-2 seconds. I slept with another girl a few times, it didn't help me get over this... I still feel love for her and now all hope I had of ever making this work is COMPLETELY out the window, because in a mere 4 months she has gone and MARRIED ANOTHER MAN!! She is extremely needy, she couldn't stand being alone...