"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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My Equation needs Fixing

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jophil28 said:
by talking to them like you did you put them in a COMFORTABLE place by sharing this " secret men's business" in the way that you did. This is HUGE for women.
Exactly.

I stumbled on this- just started talking about it and....it was amazing how big their eyes got, like telling a child where the treasure chest is buried, via a "map".

I will be experimenting/field testing more and will report back.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Juando said:
Exactly.

I stumbled on this- just started talking about it and....it was amazing how big their eyes got, like telling a child where the treasure chest is buried, via a "map".

I will be experimenting/field testing more and will report back.
This exactly what happens- women want to "know" about men and how we think and feel. BUT this insight needs to be drip fed to them to fuel their hunger for more. It is like having just one sip of a cold beer on a hot day - the sip triggers desire and then you want to glug down that whole glass real bad..

Be careful about how much you reveal.I have made the mistake of reading them the entire "'Operators Manual for Men" all in one two hour session. Big mistake- I popped the balloon.
NO more mystery = no intrigue = lower attaction.

I now believe that my original EQUATION is not a linear expression but rather more like a feedback loop in which COMFORT loops back to enhance existing attaction which leads to higher value and then to more comfort until she is riding this loop over and over - then you have either a besotted woman or a stalker. Ha!
 

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jophil28 said:
This exactly what happens- women want to "know" about men and how we think and feel. BUT this insight needs to be drip fed to them to fuel their hunger for more. It is like having just one sip of a cold beer on a hot day - the sip triggers desire and then you want to glug down that whole glass real bad..

Be careful about how much you reveal.I have made the mistake of reading them the entire "'Operators Manual for Men" all in one two hour session. Big mistake- I popped the balloon.
NO more mystery = no intrigue = lower attaction.

I now believe that my original EQUATION is not a linear expression but rather more like a feedback loop in which COMFORT loops back to enhance existing attaction which leads to higher value and then to more comfort until she is riding this loop over and over - then you have either a besotted woman or a stalker. Ha!
Good points, Jo.

Fortunately I had the sense to give them just enough of a sketch to hook them but wanting more.

Here's how I gave them more: kino + kissing; progressive kino, arms, lower back, thigh. We were in a restaurant, so first kisses on cheeks followed by light brushes to lips, again in keeping with reeling them in tactfully.
I did not know if it was working until I suggested we go listen to music and I was greeted with a look and "I wanted to invite you back to my place." Oh.

Besotted: When she said "the wine is wearing off, we better go to my bed."

I would like to besott more women, Jo; got some more equations?

It's great when this stuff works, no? It can gin up just enough momentum to carry you past the empty valleys....and back up into the lush mountains.
 
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