"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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My encounter with a MILF at the grocery store - was she DTF or not?

chivalry_x

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So I was at the grocery store today, a basket full of food in hand, waiting in line behind a MILF putting her groceries up on the conveyor belt at the cash. I was just standing there, sort of zoned out, but looking decent with a fresh haircut, et cetera.

The MILF suddenly turned around and went "I forgot something, sorry" (or something to that effect) and walked past in front of me to go grab the item. What makes it odd is she gave my forearm a bit of a slap as she walked by.

This struck me as unnecessary in normal circumstances, given there was enough space for her to quickly walk past without having to get me to move out of the way. Even assuming she needed room, she could have did the "excuse me" routine; you know, kind of like social norms dictate.

On her way back, she said "excuse me" like a normal person (with a bit of a flirty tone, though maybe it's just me), and put the item on the conveyor belt. I took care not to really check her out at all after this since she would have "won" (assuming she gets off on being a ****tease to younger guys). Peripheral vision did show she was pretty casual/relaxed, though I couldn't tell for certain if she was trying to get my attention. At one point, she did a semi-bendover to grab a magazine or something, which gave me a good glimpse of her legs, thighs, and lower ass (she was wearing short shorts).

As for her stats: she was dirty blonde, slightly chubby but with leg tone (she was by no means 'fat'), with a nice bit of cleavage. More than doable.

After she had left with her stuff bagged up (which seemed to take longer than normal), she went outside the doors in the parking lot and, for some reason, hung out with her shopping cart and took a glimpse into the store in my general direction.

At this point, I was definitely contemplating the possibilities.

As I was walking out the store, she was on the phone - presumably with her ride or S.O. This is what ruined my only plan of attack. If it wasn't for my fear of her husband or boyfriend pulling up mid-conversation, I think I may have told her something reasonably neutral pertaining to the forearm slap, and based on her reaction, would have determined if she was DTF and taken it from there.

So yea, seeing as I'm pretty clueless in general:

  • Do you think she was DTF? Or was it just my imagination?
  • Did I chicken out needlessly (should I have approached her in the parking lot)?
  • What is generally the best thing to do in that situation, assuming she is DTF?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I wouldn't read much into it.It does seem like it's just your imagination.
 

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chivalry_x said:
So yea, seeing as I'm pretty clueless in general:
Yeah you seem like it :).

Do you think she was DTF? Or was it just my imagination?
DTF=down to fvck? Well it's hard to say. She could've been DTF or AWing. The part where you saw her on the phone leans towards AW.

Did I chicken out needlessly (should I have approached her in the parking lot)?
I'd say you did chicken out needlessly although it is understandable. For one thing had you started talking to her outside you would've been more clear about the situation. So yeah you should've attempted to opnen her in the parking lot.


What is generally the best thing to do in that situation, assuming she is DTF?
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Well obviously the best thing would have been to open her and make conversation and get a sense of her reactions and played it by that.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'd use my future sight in this kind of situation. It sounds like a d**ktease! The part where she got on the phone would be my clue to take off running.
 
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