"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Crissco said:
Exactly what im saying, I dont get how people say dont date em untill you **** em.
you hang out and get to know each other (party, drink, talk, watch tv, watch a movie - just make sure you are in isolation), there is no need to go on a "date" like you've been conditioned to do by the pvssified society.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The Assistant said:
you hang out and get to know each other (party, drink, talk, watch tv, watch a movie - just make sure you are in isolation), there is no need to go on a "date" like you've been conditioned to do by the pvssified society.
Then you're talking semantics. If you're going for drinks with a girl (watching tv...really?) in isolation then I'd call it a date. She knows it's a date. You know it's a date. If you don't want to call it that because of some other connotation that's fine...but most people would still call it a date...not hanging out.

If your girlfriend when out for drinks with some random guy she just met...would you call it 'hanging out' then?
 

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I despise dinner dates because it's boring to sit there and watch each other eat.

I believe an old phrase used around here is "alcohol = sex, dinner = sleep". It's just not a good environment for breaking out of your shell, or kino, or anything that leads to something sexual. When I'm seriously dating someone, we might do dinner every weekend, but new chicks don't get that because we're still in the stage of trying to excite each other. Dinner isn't exciting.



You two are out at the bar. The mood is great. Maybe you bring up a movie you think she'd love, and tell her "Come over and watch it with me." Maybe you replace "movie" with a good wine, or a cool piece of artwork you have, or whatever.

If a girl's interested enough to come home with you, it doesn't matter what you say. It's not like you're tricking her...she knows what's up. It's just a matter of saying something a little more gentle than, "Let's go back to my place and bang."
Im at a disadvantage now. I cant drink anymore bc im on probation for DWI. Im going to need to find away around this.
 

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Crissco said:
Im at a disadvantage now. I cant drink anymore bc im on probation for DWI. Im going to need to find away around this.
Whatever, man. I'm sure plenty of people who don't/can't drink are having normal dating lives too. Use that brain of yours. You'll figure something out. Don't want us planning every little step for you, right?
 

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Iceberg said:
Whatever, man. I'm sure plenty of people who don't/can't drink are having normal dating lives too. Use that brain of yours. You'll figure something out. Don't want us planning every little step for you, right?
Exactly what ive been doing. its sucks though bc it used to be so easy for me to go to a bar hook up with random chicks
One night I made out with 2 girls at once at the bar, and a brides made. I ****in' love alcohol haha.
But, its not good to depend on it though, still a crutch.
Thanks for the advice bro
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Noodles said:
Then you're talking semantics. If you're going for drinks with a girl (watching tv...really?) in isolation then I'd call it a date. She knows it's a date. You know it's a date. If you don't want to call it that because of some other connotation that's fine...but most people would still call it a date...not hanging out.

If your girlfriend when out for drinks with some random guy she just met...would you call it 'hanging out' then?

the word "date" sends off alarms to a girl/woman don't put out don't put out, its a date so lets play it by the book. You have to make sure to make it seem like you are just hanging out and getting to know each other and that there is no thought in her head that she's on any kind of date.

You see, this is all about making sure the girl does not feel like a slut - that is their #1 fear, to think that others think she's a slut. It is common knowledge that it's slutty to have sex on a 1st or 2nd date, right? Right, but there aren't really any rules that girls follow when they are just partying it up and getting to know a guy in a casual, fun, sexual manner. The thought of a "date" sends off alarms in their heads to make sure they don't feel slutty. When she's just hanging out with you, there are no such alarms.
 

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On a 1-10 scale for a date i'd say you were a 5.

Most of the major stuff went alright with the date but there seemed to be A LOT of awkward details mentioned.

First why did you text in the car. During a date you should focus on the date, not try to act cool. I'm sure she wasn't too thrilled about it. Would you be thrilled if she texted or talked on the phone during a date?

WTF is with all the kissing. It's the first date. If you're not taking her upstairs and want to keep it traditional a single kiss will suffice. Two is already pushing it unless it's some passionate making out that will entice her to stay. 3 kisses is like wtf dude. She probably feels pretty weird and used.

Conversation is the most important part of early dates. You need to keep this consistent throughout the whole date which is hard for amateurs. Trust me man, i went through this stage trying to keep meaningful conversations throughout the WHOLE date.

Any lapse of silence that goes on for more than 5 seconds will be taken as awkward. You probably held decent conversation throughout the night and supplemented other silences with action but the car ride sounds pretty def and lacking of conversations to me which is bad.
 

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On a 1-10 scale for a date i'd say you were a 5.

Most of the major stuff went alright with the date but there seemed to be A LOT of awkward details mentioned.

First why did you text in the car. During a date you should focus on the date, not try to act cool. I'm sure she wasn't too thrilled about it. Would you be thrilled if she texted or talked on the phone during a date?

WTF is with all the kissing. It's the first date. If you're not taking her upstairs and want to keep it traditional a single kiss will suffice. Two is already pushing it unless it's some passionate making out that will entice her to stay. 3 kisses is like wtf dude. She probably feels pretty weird and used.

Conversation is the most important part of early dates. You need to keep this consistent throughout the whole date which is hard for amateurs. Trust me man, i went through this stage trying to keep meaningful conversations throughout the WHOLE date.

Any lapse of silence that goes on for more than 5 seconds will be taken as awkward. You probably held decent conversation throughout the night and supplemented other silences with action but the car ride sounds pretty def and lacking of conversations to me which is bad.
The car ride is def where I ****ed up. I only txted because we talked earlier about not texing on dates and it was rude, then out of no where she started texing random people. Your right I only should of kissed once, but I was horny and couldnt help it haha
 

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its cool man. Don't worry about it. You don't know how many HB9's, 8's, and 7's i've lost due to scaring them away, being awkward, or not making moves. You learn from experience.

Move on if its over if not make the second date a date you BOTH won't forget. That's my motto. This way it's not just memorable for her but for you as well.

The last relationship i was in on the second date as i dropped the girl off, I stole a kiss on her cheek as she was fidgeting with her keys and then ran away. she attempted to chase me but since it was raining and i had the umbrella she was forced to go inside while yelling at me to "Wait! Come back!"

I set a goal each date which is thrilling to achieve and when i achieve that goal it's an exhilarating and adrenaline rushing sensation. I'm pretty sure it was that way for the both of us.

The chase/dating is a game. Make it a fun and worthwhile memory/time. Otherwise it just becomes an exercise of swapping bodily fluids.
 
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