"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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SpazzAttackk

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Like youve seen in the past, I have solid text game when it comes to setting up dates but when it comes to conversation flow via text I just dont have it.

Before anyone says you shouldnt be conversing by text, I know. Im in a situation (again) where phone calls cant be made and Im far away from HB8. The only solution is facebook text. I can flirt, joke and be witty but when it comes to actually conversing, Im noticing a pattern where Im only asking 'What have you got planned today' or 'How was work'. Obviously asking open ended questions. But how long before these become dull? Seriously.

HB8 loves talking about her day at work and what she has planned for the day so I capitalized on that, but as of late Im noticing less interest in her replies. I salvage by using innuendos and teasing but one can only do that so much before the fire goes out.

Im drawing blanks as to what can be actually said through text, everyone knows messages can be misinterpreted causing serious problems. What are some basic surefire ways to open up a conversation?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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JoeMarron

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There's only so much you can talk about over facebook chat. Out on dates conversation is easier since there's a bunch of stuff going on around you. You need to decrease the amount of time you spend chatting to her like this. We all know what boredom does to a relationship. If you absolutely must spend time with her find one of the billions of lame facebook games to play with her lol, fool around on skype, do anything to get out of the pattern of boring conversations.
 

SpazzAttackk

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JoeMarron said:
There's only so much you can talk about over facebook chat. Out on dates conversation is easier since there's a bunch of stuff going on around you. You need to decrease the amount of time you spend chatting to her like this. We all know what boredom does to a relationship. If you absolutely must spend time with her find one of the billions of lame facebook games to play with her lol, fool around on skype, do anything to get out of the pattern of boring conversations.

I have a pretty strong frame right now for time-between texts. I usually reply a few hours after (Or 15 minutes depending on convo) I try to keep it to the bare minimum. Ill go a day or 2 without contacting her to gauge her interest, she always initiates after about a day / day in a half. So thats a good sign.
 

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the news, the latest and greatest tv shows, you know, WOMAN stuff. Me, I only bother with women who are "into" my hobbies, so those are what I talk about. Sure, I have to teach them 99% of it, but I enjoy that, and since my hobbies are karate and shooting, and many women enjoy those things, it's easy.
 

SpazzAttackk

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Hmm I could probably talk about how our mayor was found smoking crack and heroin. Huzzah Toronto.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Swampcamel

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Tell stories about your day that exhibit your social intuition to raise your value. Practicing this will make it so you're not always talking about the same ol' shi't, and aren't borrowing topics that have nothing to do with your life from the news. I mean, news and politics and crap are better than nothing, but if you can routinely find something to comment on in your day that's interesting, people will see that your life is interesting as opposed to how interesting the world is thanks news.

It's pretty easy, just people watch when you're out, there's a billion whackos to comment on.

There's the added value of including them in on this "personal conspiracy," telling her something you secretly think about so-and-so that you interacted with today that you wouldn't say straight to their face. You're letting them into your personal life and thought processes, and it will gratify them and make them feel special.
 

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Tell her about your sleep-walking adventures :up:

I find it hilarious, especially the part when you put your blanket over your head, ran into your closet door knocking your head :crackup:
 
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