My brother's version of spinning plates and advancing with intentions

[Clark Kent]

Before I get into this, my brother has had so many girls at his feet, it's virtually unbelievable, even having his hot, hot hot ex turn up at his wedding and several or more girls he was seeing there too, yet his thinking of how to game them is such a standard under-average way of method so I need a critique on this.

His version of SPINNING PLATES:

Would be COMFORT before ATTRACTION. He believes that you can't ATTRACT a girl in a second, but over a prolonged space of time. He says that, "You want a girl that you can chase a little bit, not too much, but when a girl gives you an easy advance over her, it's too easy, an attractive girl will compensate for an ugly dude if she has KNOWN HIM FOR A LONG TIME, not the other way around .." Even going as far as saying, a few years or even months till she is maintaining a train of attraction for you.

How I've witnessed him spin his version of plates.

- Group A - Girls who I can use as pawns or (I'm attracted to Group A, but I don't want to advance so soon with intentions, so I'LL KEEP THEM as friends for now, so it GIVES ME AN ADVANTAGE later on, because I've known them for so long)

- Group B - Girls I can call up at any time for A DATE. A casual date (dinner, drink or fun). I can call any of these girls at any given time and they'll partially drop what they're doing to see me.

- Group C - Girls I'm attracted to, but don't know it yet. Make them comfortable around me first.

He's banged so many girls that I thought were his friends, to find out later on, they weren't just friends, but he was banging them and maintaining no attachements. These girls would baby sit me when he would be out banging other girls, they pour out menstaul mush to him about other guys, and he WILL GIVE his 2 cents on there difficulties and still end up banging them for months to short-lived years.

This is specifically how he explained it to me and I've seen with my own eyes, the guy has slept with 60 different women, 31 years old and is now married, HAPPILY married and in love, for 6 years now. His wife is light-minded and I've never ever seen them disagree on anything. He admits to being in the "Lucky guy" bag.

I'm starting to wonder whether he's right about KNOWING A GIRL for a while (screening) , going on casual dates, not asking to be exclusive and then maybe go for that ONE, but also seeing other girls at the sametime, having lots of girls on you're phonebook.

Now this goes against everything here, doing this would mean LJBF's in my generation. I wanted him to read up on a few archived threads here, he probably would, just because he likes exploring new observations and reading, but disregard it afterwhile because of the stigma or crutch effect it could potentially have, Thoughts on this?

 

[Scars]

The LJBF "rule" is a debatable. One that I have argued before. A lot of guys here will argue that there is no need to have a woman as a friend, unless there is some sexual benefit in return. After all, they are dramatic, give horrible advice, only listen to what they want to hear, annoying, and generally stupid.

Your brother has it right though. They see him as a "friend", but he sees them as a potential sex partner that just takes time and a little investment to get to. You can see this buy his word choice, especially how he explained the part about being friends with one girl to get to another. That's an absolute player move by all means. Something I'm sure a lot of us are guilty of.

Another key note here is that you mentioned he remains "unattached" which is absolutely vital. He may come off as a well caring friend, and maybe he is, but he isn't like the other slew of guys bending over backwards to please her. He's there to listen, and I'm sure that's the extent of the friendship. Girls will go to guy friends to talk when they are feeling depressed or unwanted. Beta males will let them cry on their shoulder and try and talk some "logic" into them, telling them they can do better then the assh0le that just broke their heart, and how they need to find a "nice guy who won't ever hurt them". I don't think your brother falls into this category. Rather, he will tell them what they want to hear. Cheer up them up to feeling happy and amazing again, and seize the moment of opportunity to make a move. Woman are so easily vulnerable at a time like this it's ridiculous.

So in a nutshell, you can have a sexual friendship with a woman. The key is just making a move or having balls. If you are already a fun loving guy who jokes a lot and already put his sexuality OUT THERE through the expression of jokes then this makes it ten times easier. There's no surprise when you make a move. She knows your a man, pumping with testosterone. Beta males are afraid to show this. Which is why the most they will ever get is a hug or their hand held.

So it is possible to be friends with a girl. Whether it's platonic or sexual. A lot of guys here stress that you don't need woman friend in you life. Which is personal opinion I think. I think their are benefits to be reaped from it, but just remember to stay head level and just like any relationship their needs to be a balance.

 

[Zarky]

How much time has he spent on those 60 lays? Sure, hanging out endlessly with women can lead to sex, but it uses a lot of time, effort and often money. If you really don't mind having a couple dozen female "friends" that you have to maintain relationships with over the years... hearing them ***** about this and that, hanging out with them and cuddling without getting laid, etc etc., then yeah you can make that technique work.

Most dudes (I assume) are here to get laid with a minimum amount of time, effort and money.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

You're brother doesn't have an under-average way of thinking, just a way of thinking that WORKS for him. Everyone is different, everyone varies dude.

90% of my circle and I once upon a time did this, having girls as friends, hangouts and just chillax with them with the lads. This is the NORM out in the real world, this is how it is before any guy comes into a Pick Up community (considering he has a social circle to begin with). They then start thinking if they're friends with girls, they're automatically going to be LJBF's with them. Doesn't work like that.

If you don't make a move, yes you will get LJBF's. You're brother was obviously making moves in a way that attracted them, I'm sure he's not the beta girls-bestfriend as you described, it goes against science. His grouping of girls is infact normal, basically he has girls he's chatting to as friends, has girls he can date (bang or casual sex I believe) and then girls he finds attractive and will make a move. Aslong as there is no ONEITIS for one single female and isn't taking crap from several or more girls, he's doing the RIGHT THING.

And his Comfort Before Attraction method is used by a few PUA's just to let you know and it isnt unheard of. The fact he had a hot ex turn up at his wedding speaks volumes about his "Comfort" style - it justs means they broke up and were friends with benefits afterwards, thats awesome. Some guys here will detest that with a No Contact solution of an ex.

 

[Falcon25]

What does he look like? How much money does he make? What's his social structure like? Does he have access to women through school, work? Who does he hang out with? Does he do ugly, fat, and hot? There are lots of variables at play. But yes, in general, you can NEVER go too slow with women. As long as you keep your distance and make sure she knows that if she turns around or falls asleep next to you, she will feel the third leg.

 

[runner83]

Most dudes (I assume) are here to get laid with a minimum amount of time, effort and money.

Damn straight!

Girls are okay in moderation, but I (like a lot guys probably) also have more important things to do with my time.

Having said that though, his strategy has obviously worked.