"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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My 7 monther (at frivolousz21's request)

nishbuk

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Originally posted by frivolousz21
nishbuk-

will u write about your girl?

what happened?

what signs did you miss?

how old were u and her and ur situation in life?
I kinda already did. But the story only talks about "how" she dumped me. Not the signs that I missed. Here's the thread:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80450&highlight=dumped

Also, there is something that in retrospect was different. She did say all the things I posted, but I realized later she also said, "I'm not madly in love with you, that's just not the way I feel, even though I see all the great things about you, and I care about you as a person".

Okay, so you want to know about the relation ship...hmm...Well it started here:
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63772

And it continued with high IL for a while after that. Up until about June I think.
We went on alot of interesting dates, I didn't tell her that much about myself, but I kept the confidence up. Positives about this girl:
Independant, but also feminine.
Not needy at all. She lets me do my own ****.
Doesn't nag, never *****es at me.
Pays her way, and knows about dating "equality".
Very sweet and caring person. Genuinely wants to do good for other people.
Doesn't backstab, very intelligent. (Civil Engineer.)
Has a ****load of lingere. :p
Even got me something I really wanted on Valentines. As a surprise for me :)

Negatives:
Rarely in the mood for sex. (I know...This is a BIG red flag. But it had been this way our entire relationship. And she's a very sleepy person in general. Gets tired very quickly in day to day activities.
Very particular person. Everything needs to be "just right" to have sex. Not uninhibited that way. Very particular about other things too. Hates being tickled, and other random quirky things like "light touching". She'd rather I touched her with a little bit of pressure, than a feather touch.
Here is something. We only saw each other about once a week in the relationship, and since we started having sex, we only had sex probably about 15-20 TOTAL. That was probably over 4 months.
She would NEVER have sex or fool around seriously on her period.

Here is what I know:
She knew I was a virgin. There was no way for me to keep that a secret since we have mutual friends.
We did everything under the sun except sex for about 3 months. She told me she would not sleep with me until she got tested for STDs. (She's been with over 10 guys I think. More than 5 boyfriends, probably about 9-10 BFs, and some ONSes.) I believe she truly did this to protect me.

A couple of weeks after having sex, she went on the pill for me. This is important, because she has NEVER gone on the pill for any guy but me. I'm the first guy that she's ever had sex with without a condom.
Also, I have ALWAYS been able to give her an orgasm during **** licking. I know this because her vaginal wall quivers, and she vocally orgasms.
Also, since she has NEVER orgasmed with me having sex with her, I'm almost 100% sure that she's not faking me. I told her if she ever faked me, I would dump her right away (she has vaginal quivering, so it's obvious when she does).

So around the end of March she is moving her stuff from one apartment to her new apartment, and she's having a HORRIBLE time with the movers. (It's like 10pm and they were supposed to come at 2pm.)
When the whole ordeal is over...She's done talking to me on the phone, she says with intonation "I love you" on the phone. (On the phone? wtf?) But then, I hesistantly reciprocate (I did love her), and before I'm even done reciprocating, she takes it back by saying "Oh my gosh! I just got done talking to my mom, and I was just thinkg about that conversation when I said that! Let's just forget that that every happened! See you later hun! Bye."

So I'm like...uhhh...what? Anyway. So I NEVER bring this subject up again. It has not come up to this day. She never brought it up again. Perhaps this was the turning point? Idk...

Anyway, so we come to my birthday, which is a thursday, and we have a great time. We talk for a while, then we have a very great moment dancing in the lounge part of St. Sulpice (it's a bar) which is luckily empty except for the bartender. hehe, straight from a romantic comedy). She's looking dolls eyes at me, and I'm looking back at her.

But the thing is, when we get to her place, she turns me down for sex! On my birthday! WTF? I did get angry at her, but not NEARLY as angry as I should have. She knew I was mad, but two days later I acted like nothing was wrong.

So, now it's the begining of June and I just got donw with an Organic Chemistry summer course. It's a 60 hour a week class if you want to get an A. During that time, we see each other sparingly, and TBH, I didn't really make an effort to have interesting dates. (remember we still see each other only about once a week, sometimes two.) Most of the time we just go to dinner all the time. From this time and before, we had talked already about her not putting out. And had come to a decision that basically we would have sex before the date sometimes, and sporadically at other times.

June is here, and I'm taking an Easy Intro to Jazz class, and we see each other once a week again. I guess this iis probably when the Interest level really tanked, but I didn't notice. Basically, life was going on as usual, and nothing interesting was happening, except for the still lacking of sex often. But to me, it seemed like her ineterest level was the same as it always had been...The one intresting thing here, is that during this time, she said to me,
"Babe. I know you know I've been with a good number of guys, but I want you to KNOW that I will never ever cheat on you. I don't just want you to believe it. I want you to KNOW it."

July comes by, and now I'm in Orgainc Chem. 2. Again, it's a 60 hour a week class, and I'm doing it more than full time. I think we went out 2 times during this time, as a DATE. The reason for that, is that her mother came for the last two weeks of july. She offered me a booty call on a thursday, the day before her mom comes to visit (prolly July 19th or something). We probably havne't had sex in about 10-12 days. (We never have sex again..after this)
I turned down this booty call because I had a huge exam the next day. And when she comes over for a booty call it would probably take up 3 hours of my time.

Her mom comes on friday, and basically, we never have sex again until she breaks up with me.
I hung out with her mom and her twice, and her mom loved me. We had a great time. She's still showing me affection. Kissing me regularly, and keeping her arm around me. I came over to her house when her mom was there, and she basically ran up to me (july 20 or so) (when her mom couldnt' see, gave me a great big hug and said "I really miss you"), buried her head in my shoulder. Here's the thing. Her mom was taking her to Cuba for a week. They leave on July 20th, and go to Cuba for one week. This was perfect timing for me, since I was smack in the middle of finals.

She gets back from Cuba and I go out to brunch with her and her mom, and her friend (whose my friend kinda). We have a great time. She shows me all her pictures, including a picture of her with her arm around her tour guide (A really HOT and really BUILT guy. A model basically). There is also a pic of her mom with the same pose with the tour guide. This is Saturday July 30th.
So we have lunch, and it's great.
She gives me a wallet with my name embroidered on it, and the year, and is like "This is just something small but here!" (She bought this the first day that she was in Cuba).

When we leave, Her mom is like "Oh you should come with us out to hang out! Afterall it's my last night in town!" I turned to Ann, and she was like "Can I spend some quality time with my mom? I REALLY don't like the look on her face here.) I turn to her mom, and I'm like "Your daughter wants to spend some quality time with you! You should give that to her! :)

So I leave. She calls me on monday, and is like, "Let's meet today and have dinner". So I meet her at my house, and she gives me a chess set that ther mom told her to give to me. There's 60$ in the chess set. I accept it. Then she's like, "Oh you don't need money, I'll pay. Don't worry babe, I'll pay" <===****.

We walk down the street get as far as the corner, "Hun, I've been meaning to talk to you about something..."
And the story is continued in the thread where I tell how she broke up with, link is above.


Added twist. I find out later from a reliable source that broke confidentiality, that the "hot tour guide" that she had in Cuba apparently "gave her some new perspective" or something, and that's how she knew to break up with me. All reports I have say she didn't cheat on me (her mom was there), and they didn't hook up. But goddamn, that makes me angry.

I was totally taken by surprise. We didn't have any serious problems, and we weren't arguing regularly at all. It totally took me by surprise.
I would say that I didn't think her interest level could drop that fast in about one week. Just two weeks earlier she's being very affectionate. There was even one point in the relationship she said, "You know what. You are the absolute perfect boyfriend for me."
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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alright.....well the good news is that you know now she wasnt one for you..for a long LTR.

I can see red flags all over that..more in her IL with you..even if you were busy.

I will write as briefly as I can about my LTR so you can compare and see some differences.



Ive known the girl I'm with since about OCT 2003. we dated for a month after we met..at that tme she was Niave catholic college girl. so after a month we broke up for diff reasons..remained friends..didnt talk much though..over 2004 and part of 2005, we would talk over AIM at various times..about some pretty deep stuff....after a yr and half goes by..we both have changed alot..adn its becoming aparent....she has been out and did her thing..and I was done with drugs and drinkign so much..so finally after phone flirting and that in May we meet up on May 27th...and after 2 min just started making out.

after that.....we went out 4 times..and on June 8th "became official" from that time until around July 12th..we would talk probably 1 to 2 hours on the phone the nights we didnt see each other. and I saw her 3 to 4 days aweek. she spent the night july 12th and I told he that I loved her. well it just came out..she said it back..and that made us closer...so things went on from then until August 2nd or 3rd. thats when she had sex with me..she was a virgin. ...anyways things kept on course then seeing each other 3 or 4 days per week and a ton of phone time.


anyways 2 days after we had sex 5 times in 2 days..her parents warned her about me..and this and that..so on a wed night she called me and told me about it..and I was like well u can have a great life..im done and she was like please come see me and talk to me.

so I did..and after that night..we knew we really were in love..and we got thigns straight with her and her parents.....

from that date on until she left the 13th..I saw her 7 or 8 of 10 days..with her really laying it on..and our love deepened during this time. and the sex continued to get better.

Mind u this girl was waiting for marriage. so she finally leaves last Friday..and I didnt talk to her till wednesday evening and it was hard..it sucked...I realize then how much I love her..

she has given me no red flags.....

infact I know she loves me..its apparent..not 1 sign shows she doenst.

she is a tight knit family girl who would defy anyone to be with me, protect and me and stand up for me..

I coudl go into all teh signs of why its real love..but im sure you guys can figure it out.


anways.....when a women will nearly do anything and everything to include and adjusst her life to make a ton of room for you. then she loves you.

I cant wait till tomorrow night it feels like an eternity.

but atleast I realize now what she means to me.
 

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I can pick out most of the red flags in my 7 monther. But for learning, can you point out the ones that stick out to you? There are always things that I have missed, and other perspective that I can add to my own. Thanks.
 

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well here are some signs she is falling in love with u or is in love with u:

1. Cant get enuf of you- she will see you as much as you want. and seem to be available for you when she wouldnt be for her friends or anyone else.

2. will talk to you on the phone......for long periods of time..and you seem to always have something to talk about.(while not affecting any other part of the relationship, as the idea that talking on the phone for more than 10 min will ruin it.(thats crap)

3. acts differnt around you then her friends and family(this mean she has a super high level of trust in you to expose her self in her most vulnerable form)

4. has names for you, nicknames..ussually the basic words like angel, baby, hunny, sweetheart...then after sometime moves into more personal things.

5. exposes things, like wanting to take a shower together, using the bathroom together, talking to you about her period in depth, keeping you updated on her personal women shyt, telling u about her most useless parts of her day, like shopping and what she got, who she ran into, like telling u boring useless stories, for some reason ur actually half way interested.

I will think of more and add them...if u want to add something feel free. I realize some guys will probably act hard and say this is bs to talk about...but since most guys here cant read them well...these are generic signs she loves u, which is importnat if u dont want to get f'ed over.
 
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