"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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My 1-5-10 Tech

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Hope you may learn something:

Back In the day I met this beautiful girl that works at my bank (BB&T) just by looking at her name and sending her flowers and cards, she waited on me nearly every time I went to the bank and at times, I think she guessed it was me. I finally ask her out and told her I was the one who sent the cards because I didn’t want to ask her out right away. We dated nearly six months and are friends to this day. Try this method and you'll be amazed at the number of girls you will meet. Remember, girls like guys who are different and unique and they love romance and this method is very romantic.

Ask any female you want on her opinion of this method, and I bet she'll love it. This is a technique that can be used anywhere there is a lot of women. You can use it at parties, at bars, at malls, anywhere and everywhere there are women. It goes like this. You see a pretty girl that you would like to meet. You walk up to her and say:

"Hi, aren't you Joe Miller's ex wife?" "No I'm not", she says.
"Yeah, don't you work at Macy's?"
"No, I work at Bailey and Bailey law firm."

You apologize and say, "I'm sorry. My name's Captain Popular, what's yours." If she tells you her name, you got the information you need to work the 1-5-10 technique. You talk with her one minute using any kind of conversation to get her to tell you where she works.

You wait ten days and then you call up where she works and talk to her. You talk to her about 5 minutes and try to get a date with her. She will more readily accept a date with you on the phone because she is more relaxed than in a bar or party. Let's see how a couple guys used this technique and how you can do the same.

I was at Belden Village mall one Sunday afternoon just having a cup of coffee sitting at a table in the food court. I saw this beautiful girl sitting at a table not far from me. She had long blonde hair, a dynamite shape and looked like a movie star.

I figured I had nothing to lose so I decided to try the 1-5-10 technique. I gathered up my courage, went over to her table and looked down at her.

"Hi Barbara. How are you doing. How's your baby sister?"
"Pardon me, do I know you?"
"Yes, my name's Captain Popular. I used to work at Goodyear in cost accounting with you. Don't you remember me?"
"I never worked at Goodyear. My name's Peggy and I work at Timken Mercy Hospital in the credit office."

I'm sorry. You looked just like Barbara. Well it was nice talking to you."

I left her alone and went to the restroom and wrote down her name and where she worked. I carry a pen and a little notebook around and write down all the info in the notebook. I waited ten days and called Timken Mercy Hospital.

"Timken Mercy", the operator says when I call.
"Credit please."
"This is credit."
"Is Peggy there?"
"This is Peggy."
"Hi Peggy. This is Captain Popular. I met you the other day at the mall. I thought you were Barbara, a girl I used to work with."

Oh yes, I remember."
"Well, I remember you being so nice that I wanted to call you and talk to you a little. Maybe we can become friends. I don't know many people in town and I thought I'd like to know you."
"Well I guess it's okay. As long as I'm not too busy, I can talk to you."
"What I'd like to do Peggy, is to meet you for lunch or a cup of coffee someday. We can get to know each other."
"Sure that would be okay."
"Well, it was nice talking to you, don't work too hard. Good bye."
"Good bye Chad."

I called Peggy a few more times and finally met her in the cafeteria at the hospital for lunch. We really hit it off and dated for about six months. I have become pretty ****ing awesome in using the 1-5-10 technique. I easily meet ten to fifteen girls a month using this method. I meet them in bars, malls, department stores and restaurants."

I was in a singles bar one night looking at all the beautiful girls. I saw this really sexy looking girl fast dancing with her girlfriend and decided I'd try the 1-5-10 technique on her. When she came back to her table I decided I would go up to her and say I knew her from somewhere. I had a few drinks and was a little braver than usual.

I did go up to her and told her I knew her ex husband from college. I guess I sounded pretty convincing because she explained to me that she was never married and that she wished she was sometimes. I finally got her name and where she worked and excused myself and left the table. Sometimes I wonder if I should have stayed but if I pursued her, I would have risked public rejection because I wasn’t smooth like I am now.

I called her about ten days later and talked to her on the phone for about five minutes. I finally met her for a cup of coffee at a fast food place. We became good friends and finally had a relationship. I have become more proficient using the 1-5-10 technique and meet more and more girls."

This is a great method to meet women. Remember these points. You must be convincing and get her name and place of employment. You can always tell her later that you wanted to meet her and didn't know how, so you pretended to know her or someone she knows.

This is only if you feel guilty because you had to tell a little white lie. Sometimes you have to use little tricks to meet them. Go out tonight and try this method. Don't forget you notebook and pen.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Seems kind fo stalkish....calling them at work? NO NO
 

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That's not my style...and just because something worked once doesn't mean it always will - getting a relationship with the bank girl could (easily) have been a fluke.
 

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He said he easily gets 10 to 15 girls a month using this method.

You two guys have got to learn to break social norms(breach them). Break through the barriers that have been set-up and make yourself "unique" conforming to policy is one of the most dastardly deeds a dumbass can do.

Thanks so much for this Captain, I love new ethnomethods, you can't do a search anywhere for this stuff. This one is truly beautiful and inspiring. It's not standoffish, so the girl will feel comfortable immediately, and there are no lies, just misdirections.

Could use a little more juice though;)
 

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Sounds cool, I'm glad it works for you. IMHO I don't like to approach a woman with a lie, it just sets you up as a dishonest person. But some girls would think it's cute.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Lying through your teeth, is what you do when you tell yourself you are going to succeed with women. You are coercing your mind into a state of paranoia, a mindset, that you will in the future succeed, and you must take the necessary steps to transcend failure. Lying, is a boon to society, what is a white lie? What is seduction?

Being completely open and honest about yourself, is showing you as being absolutely comfortable, knowing that nobody will prey on the information they will inherently have about you.

Lying, is a form of protection, it can either be high strung(showing fear), or it can be graceful(showing a sense of valor). Misinterpreting something on purpose is a lie, so acting nice, when you know somebody has experienced hardships in their life, is a lie. Being kind, on the other hand, is not always deserved, some people don't deserve kindness from you. Of course, you can't judge a book by it's cover, so opening a statement with a defensive remark(a lie) is a form of flattery. If you openly give a person a lie, and reveal the lie, they have only one of two routes. They cannot follow both paths you lay out for them, accepting the lie(speaking to you) or being offended(walking away). When they walk away from you, they in turn are offended, if you offend somebody, without meaning to offend them, they are in return, offending you, showing sympathy or understanding, is what yopu seek. You must take what you need, and leave morsels for the less fortunate.

Thank you for bringing up this subject way, it opened my eyes to a new possibility.

If you want a solution, YOU must be the one to make it. If outright lying is a problem for you, do not do it. Here is a nice spin on the captains strategem.
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Eye the girl down, in your mind, who does she look like? Does she have hair like your mothers? A movie star perhaps? Your not thinking of flattering her are you? That would be insulting to her ego, if it doesn't deserve to be stroked, it will only reinforce negative habits. We all know negative habits are harmful, one step, two step, three step, you just entered Kiven Bacon's world, you have entered the levels of seperation. Blame it on the butterfly in the amazon for your actions, or not, but by complimenting her, you set of a chain reaction. You have just told her with your compliment, that she is great the way she is(ever hear that one before?), and her problems don't need fixing, since they are a part of her. Of course, we all need problems, to learn to overcome them. Life throws a few obstacles in our path, it is disgraceful to your family if you do not take the necessary measures to go beyond those borders. Perhaps that is why my parents never encouraged me, postive verbal encouragement is a ruse, it does not help. That is why they offered me advice, and paraphrased information(thanks mom and dad).

So you've seen the girl, and she has qualities about her. She looks like SOMEBODY.
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Walk up to the girl
You: "hey, you look like Audrey Hepburn"
Her: "who's audrey Hepburn"
You: "Oh she's a famous movie actor"
You: "She's dead now"(see how that is a breach of norms? Unexpected moment in her mind, if you give her a problem, just for the sake of a causing her grief, you are being evil)
You: "You should start acting, you could be the next Audrey Hepburn"(I bet you were expecting C+F. This is a form of complimenting, flattery. You could than mirror her, pretending(is pretending a lie?) to be an actor yourself, a somehwat subconcious(if you influence somebody's subconcious mind, you are also inhibiting a form of lie if you do not reavel your goal immediately) since Imitation IS the highest form of flattery) (In saying you should be the next acotr, also tied up loose ends, If you left it at she's dead now, and tried to carry on the conversation, she would have been offended, and would offend you at the same time be insituating how creepy you are)
Her: *blush* "why thank you"
You: *grab her hand* "I wasn't trying to compliment you"(Another ruse(lie) You are trying to complment her, by comparing her to ANYTHING, is a compliment on it's own, it reveals a sense of ONENESS with everything)(Also adheres to DJ philos, no girl deserves a pedestal that doesn't seat two)
You: "I was just thinking you could pull off a great imitation of her" (This is where most guys fail, this is a crucial turning point, between bland conversation, and exciting. You must create twists and turns, I am not yet there :()
Her: ... *CUT OFF!!!* (You aren't finished getting your information, it is time to fight. Show her you are strong enough to get what you want)
You: "Sorry for cutting you off"(You rightly should be, I get angry when people cut me off, sorry would make feel more comfortable, remember rapport)
You: "I'm talking too much, I have to slow down." (Of course this is on paper, so kino, lighting, body language, and time have passed between you two, there is a connection established apart from the words you say)
Her: *pause waiting for you to speak more* I cannot predict what she will say here, it will be pure KBDJ bullcrap. So in essence, she will give you feedback on your game, something for you to work on, before the next time you meet her.
You: "Thank you, I think" *fake that confused look*(actors, lawyers, and scientists all MUST use lies to determine what is truth in theory) (Sapiens I'm sure is good at this next point, he is the only man I have ever heard of that can prdict through a persons descriptive words what their profession is, remember the story about the coffee girl in the workplace who goaded him while having a husband, yes her, the attourney) "You know, I bet your a professional clown" (another deception, of course you must use misdirection, without seeming straightforward, or else you risk a brutal brick wall)
Her: "GAH!!!" *shocked look* *cut her off again, without apology*
You: "No really, where do you work?"

and tadum, no real lies, just misdirection.

Now pray tell, what is your problem with misdirection, I love this paraphrasing DJ society.
 

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So much negativily and defensivnes in these here forums now a days.....nice words ethnomethodologist
 

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Ethno, could you clarify the idea of your post. You said you've discovered a new possibility.. is this the concept of misdirection without establishing a false background or pretense? Also, you mentioned something important: Do what works for YOU. Great. Everyone should memorize that statement. Doing this or that method, whether in generating attraction or doing something at work, is not going to get you far if it does not come easily with you. Find your bread and butter and stick with it.


"so acting nice, when you know somebody has experienced hardships in their life, is a lie."

- I thought this was called compassion? To me, this is neither lie nor truth, but a feeling of empathy.


"Lying through your teeth, is what you do when you tell yourself you are going to succeed with women. You are coercing your mind into a state of paranoia, a mindset, that you will in the future succeed, and you must take the necessary steps to transcend failure."

- I have to disagree with you. Positive thinking should not be a lie. You should genuinely visualize a goal and set your will to achieve it. Visualization under the pretext of a lie may not get you far...I'm not sure, tell me how it goes. Telling myself "I am going to succed with women" or "I am going to make this 3 pointer" or "I am going to get an A on this test" is not a lie...especially if you actually succeed :)

"Being completely open and honest about yourself, is showing you as being absolutely comfortable,"

-YES

"... knowing that nobody will prey on the information they will inherently have about you."

-And if they try to, who cares! That is you! :D



Nice discussions all.
 

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Way, that was horrible ;) Way, you've got me all wrong, I am a dumbass, I want to lie... your supposed to tell me ways around lies, I want to become the pope and still keep my harem.

I've really got to work on my dark stylee. Seduction is universal, and I plan on lving it, and being kind and going to whatever comes after death... and being accepted with open arms. Who here doesn't want to get accepted, or have their ideas accepted? Of course we've got to put the effort into being successful, so sosuave is my incubator to being a master:D

So now that I look back, I succeeded. I argued against lying, by avoiding it at all costs. Only problem is, everything is interconnected, that was my discovery, in that you lie if you are not being true to yourself, you just misdirect people. Thanks for the critique.
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You revealed a few gems yourself there!
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" I thought this was called compassion? To me, this is neither lie nor truth, but a feeling of empathy."
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Compassion, is an action feeling, to calm somebody's nerves when they are angry is compassionate. Problem is, if they are angry for a valid reason, you are trying to convince them tthey are wrong if you tell them to calm down, of course there are other methods, but quick does the trick. Lying is simply not telling the truth. When you act compassionate, you must express your feelings for the person after FEELING what they are going through. You can fake compassion, easily, everyday people fake compassion, even though they are oblivious to the fact, "ignorance is not a virtue", it sure is used as an out a lot of the time though. You fake compassion, by not being adamant about your position. If you casually see somebody who is sad, and you honestly try to find out what their problem is, and than you FEEL the need to solve their problem is compassion. You must be passionate about it, and you must know how they feel. If you casually take in their plight, and than try to make them forget about it is also compassionate, telling them to leave their problems in the past, since you too have had problems, and learned from them is one of lifes lessons. Explaining life's lessons to somebody to ease their suffering is compassion. So basically, talking to a person, and helping them with their problem... is compassion.

Being nice, or keeping a silent tone, and just letting their problem eat away at them, is evil. Being nice, in the sense of an AFC who is trying to seduce a women, by appealing to her need to feel protected, and not actually protecting her is where I am trying to get. You don't get something out of doing nothing, just being there when the world ends, doesn't mean you were part of it, you were just along for the ride, just a victim of the circumstance.
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"I have to disagree with you. Positive thinking should not be a lie. You should genuinely visualize a goal and set your will to achieve it. Visualization under the pretext of a lie may not get you far...I'm not sure, tell me how it goes. Telling myself "I am going to succed with women" or "I am going to make this 3 pointer" or "I am going to get an A on this test" is not a lie...especially if you actually succeed"
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Positive thinking is a lie, of course it is, it's a white lie. To convince yourself you are what you are not is a lie, but telling yourself you are going to attempt to succeed is not, it is a statement, and statements are never right or wrong, only flawed. What you must do is tell yourself that you are going to succeed, telling yourself you are a master DJ, will only lead you down the wrong path, saying you are the best, you are da bomb, will create a pit inside of you that is not full, and than you seal it off by claiming you have reached the pinnacle. Hm, I can take in the idea that inside you are shooting for the moon, you want to succeed, than telling your mind you are already there so you can enjoy the fruits of your labour, before the labour is finished.

So you saying that visualising is not a lie, if you visualise it, you have set a path. Saying "I am successful with women" is a lie if you are not. Saying "I am going to be successful with women" is a lie if you do not will yourself, it is a lie if you contradict yourself. Say for example I want to make a 3 pointer, I say to myself "I am going to make this three pointer", and I shoot and get it in, than I would be a psychic. Are psychic hotlines a load of crock? Yes for lying, but no for trying to convince yourself not to shoot yourself in the foot is what they are doing. Motivation is what it really is, you motivate yourself towards greatness, exclaiming your greatness will in people make them think you are a try hard, a show off, a masquerader, a chauvinist, a liar, a cheat, many things that are never good. Exclaiming your desire to become great will make others feel compassion for you(thanks again), they may actually assist you in your quest by testing your mead, they will strengthen you up by preparing you for a real world crisis(**** test) and you can come out on top by trying your best to succeed(C+F).
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So now I am at a cross roads, and feeling sorry for the captain for semi hijacking. I never thought I'd feel bad for doing this. I want to say thank you, but I don't truly feel that you would suffice, I need stronger words, since thank you has lost it's meaning. I am grateful for this discussion, there I said it... and I didn't come off as a tool saying it.
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"is this the concept of misdirection without establishing a false background or pretense"
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Of course I discovered this, long ago, the first time I cried to get something. I wasn't the first to discover it though since even dogs howl to be allowed inside.

I was just elaborating on a point made by many DJ's, you have to be in control. Misdirection , is distraction, distracting a person with true and relevant facts isn't a lie. The problem is that some people won't let you off the hook that easy, I am lacking in the commanding people to obey me area:rolleyes: I would appreciate feedback on that subject.

Women are masters at the art of misdirection, prehaps I should consult a lady friend. They bring up old subjects that you never solved to prove that you are still ignoring her needs and desires as a woman by not giving her a better man. They appear illogical, but she can explain why she did something for hours, why can't a man do just the same?
 
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