Must Watch : What Attracts Women

[latino158]

time to wake up guys

the makeup and fashion industry, are billion dollars businesses, women biggest insecurities come from concerns about their visual appeal, and physical traits, women spend most of their time trying to look as physically and sexually appealing as possible, yet you believe, that when it comes to their attraction to men, they become blind to physical traits and only focus on a man''s behavioral aspects?

men are right up front in placing attractiveness in their top 3, women place it lower on their scale, but in fact, when you evaluate women's behavior, is no different than men, so women say that attractiveness doesn't matter, but when you evaluate their behavior, it does.

Why do they say it doesn't matter? very simple, to not appear superficial, women are scared as hell to lose society's approval, they will say everything you want to hear

a man's looks even matter to you as a straight male, that's why when advertisers want you to buy their razors, they use good looking models, the lead soldier in the video games, look rugged handsome, wide jaw, you will have positive assumptions and expectations about persons if they're good looking, and you will have positive assumptions and expectations about products if they are associated with good looking people

you will believe the good looking guy uses this particular razor, which allows him to get a good looking wife, and that masculine good looking soldier, has the balls to go war and is respected by his colleagues

and you don't even wanna date men, imagine how women feel

an example, let's put an ugly guy next to a good looking guy, if I say, one of them, is socially retarded, has mild autism, and doesn't get laid? who would you think I'm talking about?, not only did you choose the better looking man as the better genetic specimen, you also did this specifically, because you found one of the two, better looking than the other, if good looks has this much influence on your perception of these men, as a heterosexual man yourself, what effect would a man's looks have on a female

why did you assign more positive traits, such as confidence to the better looking male?

the halo effect


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V7TcSr9GiM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFp6LY-tvxQ

 

[DragonBlood]

Well, Pook always advocated healthly living, fitness and working on your real value as his main attraction points. Theres not much on 'game' in his stuff.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Crap post - Its not about being good looking but LOOKING GOOD: IE: Being the best you can be.

As long as you're not butt ugly, a man's physical attractiveness has much less value to a woman than a woman's does to a man.

If a guy is 10 in looks but is a winey, needy, lame, emasculated faggot; he WILL lose that girl to a guy who is a 7 in looks and 10 in innergame and confidence. ALWAYS.

Attraction isn't a choice with women - NO MATTER WHAT - as long as you are not butt ugly and push the right buttons - she will respond.



I am not saying that looks do not play a very initial role in attraction with women. A girl can look at a guys picture and say hes hot all day long. But, There are far more cues than just his aesthetics: body language, clothing, eye-contact

If a woman thinks a man is a 10 in the looks and then he opens his mouth to reveal a squeaky, insecure, phaggot within; he will be friendzoned.

If a guy thinks a woman is a 10 and she opens her mouth to reveal a clueless valley-girl idiot; she will be f*cked. Repeatedly.


In fact, you're entire post revolves around main stream media. You come to SoSuave to unlearn it because it is false.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Why do I see women with so many ugly men

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Grey area

 

[IndeedSir]

This is true. Interesting videos. However, it is locked into a very strict set of binaries. It also only illustrates the initial stage of attraction. My last FWB was 6 foot tall (I'm 6 foot 2). I'm really skinny (something I plan to start working on again, was at uni for two years so no food and no time) and these well built dudes sometimes taller than me would come up and chat her up in front of me. Was she attracted to them? Obviously, yes. She actually said to me after we first started hooking up that I wasn't the type of guy she normally went for. There are so, so many variables. Looks definitely weigh in more initially and it's unlikely that if you're unattractive you'll be getting 10's. But game for everyone isn't about getting a ten. It's about getting the best woman you can. For most average looking guys who put in some effort, this can be 8/9's quite easily. My cousin is slight above average looking and he's been dating a HB9 who does charity work, has a brain and a great personality.

Do looks matter? Yes, are they everything, no.

 

[El Payaso]

Looks matter a lot but only initially. You can look like a god among men but if you have the conversation skills and attitude of a garden snail, most women will quickly figure you out and bore of you.

Looks combined with game can be a killer combo. If you're just average looking and have game, you just have to work a little harder to get that woman to listen to you or look your way. After that, you're solid.

 

[GotED?]

I don't think we can GENERALIZE women as a whole, just as that not ALL men only go for HB7+ and above.

I am sure the women we see with a man who is obviously not on the same physical attractiveness level, comes from a different mindset.

I had ex-GF's who told me their previous ex was a beta chump who pursued them endlessley as orbiter (AKA supposed 'FRIEND'). One day she just finally gave in and then turned him boyfriend (out of loneliness I suppose).

So though you may see that beta chump guy with a good looking woman, I doubt it will last.

Also don't forget, women are sore creatures of low self-esteem; this automatically casts them to DATE DOWN as well to feel they are in control and can keep her man (true story from ex-GF's).

Inevitably, you are just seeing that unbalanced couple at a point in time. What the real question is, will it last??

Exodus

 

[adam225]

Crap post - Its not about being good looking but LOOKING GOOD: IE: Being the best you can be.

As long as you're not butt ugly, a man's physical attractiveness has much less value to a woman than a woman's does to a man.

If a guy is 10 in looks but is a winey, needy, lame, emasculated faggot; he WILL lose that girl to a guy who is a 7 in looks and 10 in innergame and confidence. ALWAYS.

Attraction isn't a choice with women - NO MATTER WHAT - as long as you are not butt ugly and push the right buttons - she will respond.



I am not saying that looks do not play a very initial role in attraction with women. A girl can look at a guys picture and say hes hot all day long. But, There are far more cues than just his aesthetics: body language, clothing, eye-contact

If a woman thinks a man is a 10 in the looks and then he opens his mouth to reveal a squeaky, insecure, phaggot within; he will be friendzoned.

If a guy thinks a woman is a 10 and she opens her mouth to reveal a clueless valley-girl idiot; she will be f*cked. Repeatedly.


In fact, you're entire post revolves around main stream media. You come to SoSuave to unlearn it because it is false.

This !!!

+1 Very well put.

 

[latino158]

Crap post - Its not about being good looking but LOOKING GOOD: IE: Being the best you can be.

As long as you're not butt ugly, a man's physical attractiveness has much less value to a woman than a woman's does to a man.

If a guy is 10 in looks but is a winey, needy, lame, emasculated faggot; he WILL lose that girl to a guy who is a 7 in looks and 10 in innergame and confidence. ALWAYS.

Attraction isn't a choice with women - NO MATTER WHAT - as long as you are not butt ugly and push the right buttons - she will respond.



I am not saying that looks do not play a very initial role in attraction with women. A girl can look at a guys picture and say hes hot all day long. But, There are far more cues than just his aesthetics: body language, clothing, eye-contact

If a woman thinks a man is a 10 in the looks and then he opens his mouth to reveal a squeaky, insecure, phaggot within; he will be friendzoned.

If a guy thinks a woman is a 10 and she opens her mouth to reveal a clueless valley-girl idiot; she will be f*cked. Repeatedly.


In fact, you're entire post revolves around main stream media. You come to SoSuave to unlearn it because it is false.

only people who are not good looking, would say that look don't matter to women

is the same, when poor people, say that money doesn't matter

 

[Dgwizdal]

only people who are not good looking, would say that look don't matter to women

is the same, when poor people, say that money doesn't matter

Another quality AFC winey response from OP as he applies his eye liner while holding back warm beta tears in the mirror. :crackup:

Grab your balls and stop making excuses of why your not getting laid. Your lack of aesthetics is NOT the problem as much as your b*tch-made attitude is.

 

[latino158]

Another Great AFC winey response from OP as he applies his eye liner while trying to hold back warm beta tears. :crackup:

Grab your balls and stop making excuses of why your not getting laid. Your lack of aesthetics is NOT the problem as much as your b*tch-made attitude is.

lmao

how do you know I lack aesthetics? maybe I don't

strong assumptions, so typical of the internet when they don't like what you have to say, then have to personally attack you

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

only people who are not good looking, would say that look don't matter to women

Sorry dude, think you're wrong here. IME, usually it's the opposite.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Everyone knows that looks have some value but...

lmao

how do you know I lack aesthetics? maybe I don't

strong assumptions, so typical of the internet when they don't like what you have to say, then have to personally attack you

3/4's of your threads are about looks being the only thing that matters which is just f*ckin great advice for a community of guys trying to work on their personalities and innegame to become better with women and better as a whole

.......Which is exactly why your looks based threads do not belong here.

It is very clear that you are insecure especially after you saw a picture of that baller soccer player and got depressed lmaooooo :crackup:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=188507

Guess you don't have money or looks and you care - you have just disproven your own statement I "attacked" you on. Reps to PeaksandValleys.

 

[Turuwal]

um op what is the point of this

focus on improving yourself not on other guys

 

[Jaylan]

I dont agree with this. You're focusing too much on logic and not enough on real evidence. Everyone can admit that physical attractiveness is very important. But it can be overcome rather easily with game/status/money. Go to any bar and witness it.

We men know that we can excuse character flaws in women that we think are hot quite readily. Guess what, you will see women excuse physical attractiveness for money, game, and status often. In fact far more often than like men. Simply compare the number of ugly men in hollywood scoring with dimes with the number of dumpster diving attractive male celebrities marrying for love or for quality of character.

Thats the thing though. Scoring because of money and fame doesnt really mean the girl is outright sexually attracted to you...because we know a lot of chicks will still fawn over dudes who actually get them wet.

Using money and status to get women generally gets chicks who use you as a provider. If the guy is ok with that, more power to him. But I think a good number of dudes want a chick thats actually sexually attracted to him....not just attracted to the lifestyle he can provide her.

That said, I see women all the time let good looking guys get away with bad behavior and character flaws. Hell, a lot of you blokes have seen this happen in those online dating experiments that some guys have done. Chicks let a guy get away with a lot of crap if shes tingly between the legs for him.

I don't think we can GENERALIZE women as a whole, just as that not ALL men only go for HB7+ and above.

I am sure the women we see with a man who is obviously not on the same physical attractiveness level, comes from a different mindset.

I had ex-GF's who told me their previous ex was a beta chump who pursued them endlessley as orbiter (AKA supposed 'FRIEND'). One day she just finally gave in and then turned him boyfriend (out of loneliness I suppose).

So though you may see that beta chump guy with a good looking woman, I doubt it will last.

Also don't forget, women are sore creatures of low self-esteem; this automatically casts them to DATE DOWN as well to feel they are in control and can keep her man (true story from ex-GF's).

Inevitably, you are just seeing that unbalanced couple at a point in time. What the real question is, will it last??

Exodus

This.

Theres this new girl in my gym who just moved to the town. A few weeks ago she stayed in the gym late after work until around 130am. Not because she was working out, but because she wanted one of the front desk guys to give her a tour and show her each machine (since shes mostly a cardio bunny).

This was a Saturday night...and its late...and this chick has a boyfriend...that she lives with. Yet shes in the gym that late hanging around, chatting, and asking for tours at such an hour? So us guys get to talking (front desk and some regulars) and we know for a fact she must be thristy and unsatisfied with her guy.

Why? Because theres no way in hell an attractive, young, satisfied woman hangs out in a gym like that on a Saturday at late hours. Next time we see her, we can obviously tell shes way out of her boyfriends league and basically had to drag him to the gym to workout with her. My buddy who works there looks at me and says "hes not gonna keep that...you know hes losing that". And I say "yep, hes not keeping up with her and doing his thing. You cant be lazy and looking all bummy when your girl is up in the gym and talking to other dudes"

I even tried to give the guy a couple of workout pointers when I saw him load the leg press machine very wrong. He had 5 plates on one side, and 2 or 3 on the other (45 lb plates). Thats asking to hurt yourself. Clearly the guy isnt much about fitness, and if he doesnt start hanging with his gal more outside of the house, I can see a gym dude swiping her up.

 

[Jaylan]

Sorry dude, think you're wrong here. IME, usually it's the opposite.

Agree.

My experience is usually that good looking men and women ignore or dismiss the role looks play in sexual attraction. While looks arent everything, they are a substantial part of attraction.

That said, most people are at least average looking. If you get a suitable haircut, get fit, and dress well, you shouldnt do teribbly with women.

 

[Dgwizdal]

Thats the thing though. Scoring because of money and fame doesnt really mean the girl is outright sexually attracted to you...because we know a lot of chicks will still fawn over dudes who actually get them wet.

Using money and status to get women generally gets chicks who use you as a provider. If the guy is ok with that, more power to him. But I think a good number of dudes want a chick thats actually sexually attracted to him....not just attracted to the lifestyle he can provide her.

That said, I see women all the time let good looking guys get away with bad behavior and character flaws. Hell, a lot of you blokes have seen this happen in those online dating experiments that some guys have done. Chicks let a guy get away with a lot of crap if shes tingly between the legs for him.

Yes online dating = initial attraction based on a picture.

I am a decent looking guy maybe a 7-7.5 in the face, decent body, average height with a huge fvcking c0ck, but it is my attitude that lets me get away with things. If I was mumbling, fumbling, squeaky, unconfident 9 in the face faggot - I wouldn't have nearly the same success I do and I dated a playboy model for 5 years when I was an AFC until she monkey branched me to a less looking guy.

Post DJ enlightenment - I've banged/dated hotter than her and knocked out whole social circles and I am nothing spectacular beyond cleaning up well. In fact, I know guys that are great looking gentleman who can't get passed banging warpigs. Once a women senses your insecurity no matter how hot you are on an initial interaction - GAME OVER.

 

[Jaylan]

Of course, because they have the best experience. For example, I'm a pretty looking guy, I get approached occasionally and obvious IOI's and all that. Probably an 8. Guess what, virtually zero success with women before I learned game or got status. I couldn't even hook up with women that were APPROACHING me. Not having game was enough to bring my sex life to a screeching halt, it didn't matter how I looked.

Oh wells, your experience is different from the male 8s Ive known. They were getting laid and having dating life despite average status and game (if any). Glad you found something that works for you though.

 

[Leprechaun2013]

Not too sure about this