Must See Tyler From RSD Video, Purposely Doing Bad Approaches

[bukowski_merit]

The difference I see between this place and PUA comm..........is I think we focus on the WHOLE package. Family ties, developing YOURSELF, focusing on growing as a HUMAN and a MAN.

RSD and most other PUA sites also focus on these things. Sosuave posters who think we're the only pickup site that focuses on these things - just show they don't really explore other sites.

I like Corey Wayne.....but he focuses on the whole package, not pump and dump.

Nothing wrong with Pump and Dump. Also, I'd advise you to visit other boards as well to see that Relationship/choosing the right girl/etc.... Is basically taught across every PUA board. And it's pretty much the same advice on each board... Not much different from here (except some sites go really deep into the psychology of it all; and others keep it simple and just tell you the what's and how's).


There may have been a time when SS was one of the few that focused on relationships and lifestyle/self-improvement. But.... That's no longer the case.

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What do you think it wrong that he says in the video?

Do you think guys don't have the negative mentality he displays? Look around this board and see so many guys saying they can't do this stuff because [looks; money; race; no friends; pick one]....

Is his ideas that thinking more positive will improve your chance wrong?

Every time an RSD video gets posted: I watch is and it doesn't seem ANY different from what you'll find in many threads here. Yet, there's always 4-5 guys in there saying it's a scam blah blah.... How's it a scam? Simply because they have a product doesn't make it a scam.

What's wrong with the advice? Show the flaws in the advice and maybe your words will carry more weight.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I don’t like Tyler durden purely because of the way he is perceived by Neil Strauss in the game , he seems to remove the need to weave being a PUA into normal life and almost turn it into a few boring functions

In the book neil described him as machine like with his over analysing everything and it actually got irritating reading about him

However i do agree that women are EXTREMELY intuitive and as i have mentioned before they are capable of reading your emotions long before you realise you even have them

Which is why the “ i don’t care attitude” cannot be faked and why you cannot properly game HB 9’s & 10’s until you fully appreciate that no woman is worth more than yourself

Its almost like playing a game of poker..... the player with the best game face will always win

 

[Vice]

I don’t like Tyler durden purely because of the way he is perceived by Neil Strauss in the game , he seems to remove the need to weave being a PUA into normal life and almost turn it into a few boring functions

In the book neil described him as machine like with his over analysing everything and it actually got irritating reading about him

However i do agree that women are EXTREMELY intuitive and as i have mentioned before they are capable of reading your emotions long before you realise you even have them

Which is why the “ i don’t care attitude” cannot be faked and why you cannot properly game HB 9’s & 10’s until you fully appreciate that no woman is worth more than yourself

Its almost like playing a game of poker..... the player with the best game face will always win

Dude, Strauss wrote that book over ten years ago... TD has changed drastically since them lmao.

In this thread we have a massive circlejerk.

 

[BeDJ]

Dude, Strauss wrote that book over ten years ago... TD has changed drastically since them lmao.

In this thread we have a massive circlejerk.

And I ask again, can someone post a [FR] of using Tyler's attitude?

Edit:
As much women that Tyler seduces, given his looks (Ron Jeremy,) don't you think that he should be doing porn by now?

 

[Maximus Rex]

Now Here You Go

Yeah.
Attracting women is not as complicated as these guys make it out to be. Just be an outgoing and confident normal person.

If being a "normal," "confident," was all that was needed in attracting a woman, then sites such as So Suave and the seduction community wouldn't exist. What you're saying is analogous to telling an introverted and socially inept person to be "confident," and "normal," on a job interview and the end result will be a job offer.

A lot of dudes, (myself included,) being "confident," and "normal," includes displaying bad character traits that often times turn women off. As "THE NEGMAN," once told ya boy, a lot of the dudes I know now, (since moving to NYC,) initially didn't like Rex. "THE INSECT," said he didn't like me at first, but he then realized that ole Rex had other enduring qualities that showed him that Rex was a cool dude.

At the end of the day, Rex has a quirky personality. For Rex his quirky personality is "normal," and Rex is very comfortable and confident in the perculiarities that compromise his psyche and personality. However, as I stated, my personality is initially off putting to some women. Despite ole Rex being, "confident," with himself and doing what he feel is "normal," am I to continue doing what I have been doing to attract women, (knowing that success rate is very low,) or find a method were I incorporate my personality into a system that will draw women to me or lessen my negative attributes.

Typical PUA shıt. How fruity is that guy, seriously.

So Suave is a PUA forum, and specifically what is "fruity," about
Tyler.

The difference I see between this place and PUA comm..........is I think we focus on the WHOLE package. Family ties, developing YOURSELF, focusing on growing as a HUMAN and a MAN.

Mauser, you have to watch more RSD YouTube videos, a lot of the videos aren' game related per se, but they have a lot to do with growing as a person,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZRvBkGaAi0&list=UUD4xqm6vJ3K4ntppsE1jL4g

The Truth About Motivation - How To Feel Bulletproof Inspiration ALL THE TIME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx9oa53Lk9Y

The Truth About Motivation - Secret Code For Win After Win Through Your Entire Life!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fANFN_8DPg&index=46&list=UUD4xqm6vJ3K4ntppsE1jL4g

Tyler's Secret To Effortless Motivation: "Buy In" To What You're Capable Of Accomplishing (+Infield)

And why does does So Suave have to be focused on the the "entire package." Isn't the downfall to a lot of businesses due to the fact that they over extended themselves into other areas? One can make the argument that businesses should stay focused only primary areas. Also, it's the posters that of this site that seem to want to take it other areas and not the owner of the site. It seems that owner site only wants So Suave to stay focused in on pulling chicks. You can tell this by the fact So Suave has had the same look for damn near ten years.

But the biggest thing.....is we have NOTHING to sell. SDo there are no paid actors.

I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. Do to the fact that Mystery and Tyler are selling something they're forced to constantly evolve their game in order to stay relevant. Where as at So Suave, there's a constant stream of guys that come on the forum asking very rudimentary questions and some long time posters who seem to be stagnant in their game. Besides, what's wrong with RSD selling something? And where are these paid actresses? You can't stay in business for ten plus years based on a fraud.

I don’t like Tyler durden purely because of the way he is perceived by Neil Strauss in the game , he seems to remove the need to weave being a PUA into normal life and almost turn it into a few boring functions

In the book neil described him as machine like with his over analysing everything and it actually got irritating reading about him

Dude, Strauss wrote that book over ten years ago... TD has changed drastically since them lmao.

I have to cosigned both of these posters.

1) I didn't f*ck with RSD because of the way Tyler was portrayed in The Game.

2) Tyler at 32 years old is a CEO of a company and a father of two kids isn't the same dude that was 22 year old fat Canadian that popped at Project Hollywood.

Tyler's approach may work in theory, but can someone post an actual field report when it has worked?

And I ask again, can someone post a [FR] of using Tyler's attitude?

Define Tyler's "approach," and "attitude." Also, explain how your approach and attitude yields greater success than Tyler's and when you'll be starting boot camps, so we can all sign up to take them. Also, Tyler's approaches aren't posted in their entirety.

I'm glad you're one of the few people on here that actually think RSD has something to offer, rather than lumping it in with all the other PUA stuff and bashing it

I think that all successful guys in the PUA community have something to offer, and like I really don't understand the point of PUA detractors. I was on Tariq Nasheed's forum www.upa.com when this dude had a thread stating that Jeff was incorrectly applying Rosebudd Bitterdose's 27 Rules of Pimping to pickup, I act the same question, "Where was Jeff wrong in his application of Rosebudd's Rules?"

I never got an answer to that question, but I did get of "You're supposed to already know how to holler at chicks and not pay somebody to teach you." "PUAs look up and want to be macks." "There's a difference between PUAs, players, and macks." "Only nerdy white boys, Asians, and Middle Eastern cats go to and pay racks for boot camps." Then there's the underlying tone that white pick up gurus "stole," something from black community and if you ARE going to pay somebody to teach about game, you should seek out pimp or a black dude that is or was successful with chicks.

Here I'm getting some of the sentiments (minus the racial overtones,) that dudes should already know how to holler at chicks, "be themselves," and just be "normal." However, I think a lot of the detractors of companies like RSD have one simple motivation, jealousy. A lot of dudes are just simply jealous of Tyler's and Mystery's lifestyle. There are quite a few dudes who are simply don't like the fact that a few make a damn good living by travelling the world and teaching dudes the fundamental principles that are involved in getting a chick to like you and want to give you some. To Vlad, BeDJ and Mauser, please answer the following questions.

Nevertheless, I can't argue against anything he is doing or explaining in this video. Can you? If so, then please explain it to me, what exactly is "sh!t" about this?

What's wrong with the advice? Show the flaws in the advice and maybe your words will carry more weight.

 

[BeDJ]

If being a "normal," "confident," was all that was needed in attracting a woman, then sites such as So Suave and the seduction community wouldn't exist. What you're saying is analogous to telling an introverted and socially inept person to be "confident," and "normal," on a job interview and the end result will be a job offer.

Serious question,

How do you think an introverted and socially inept person will come off if he used Tyler's approach and body language, word for word?

Define Tyler's "approach," and "attitude." Also, explain how your approach and attitude yields greater success than Tyler's and when you'll be starting boot camps, so we can all sign up to take them. Also, Tyler's approaches aren't posted in their entirety.

I'll try to incorporate answers to Die Hard and bukowski_merit's questions as well. The advice Tyler give is great, it's also universal in the 'Game,' it's nothing new under the sun. What throws me off is his attitude in the approach. Maybe he has that going for him, maybe he can be much more successful is he tones it down. I've seen many friends and friends of friends try to use Tyler's approach (AMOG mostly) in new social group approaches and they simply fail. They have read The Game and game related material intensively, but are socially unaware (unable to carry the conversation.) It's not their lack of knowledge about Game, but they lack the opportunity to apply Game.

I have had a similar approach as Tyler in the past, which provided marginal results. It wasn't until I toned it down quite a bit and made effort to understand social dynamics where I made great leaps in success approaching. The easiest way to open the door is making people like you, which is getting over-shadowed in the Game. The mentality in SoSuave and similar communities is that "If they don't like you, fvck em, approach someone that does." I had that mentality in the past and was fortunately able to put my ego aside and see how I can humbly improve my approaching success. It's not a numbers game if you can't get your foot in the door. Repeating the same thing over and over without results is very ineffective. Going back to my 'attitude,' I don't think it as an 'approach.' Rather, an opportunity to have fun with people and how I can help them out. How can their social group benefit from having my presence? What do I bring to the table?

I've seen many men approach and immediately get blown out. I have done it many times in the past and had the mindset 'whatever, I'll approach the next one.' It wasn't until I changed that mindset that I experienced many many door opened. People were actually asking me things and genuinely interested in having me there. They were going out of their way to invite me out. I was adding value to their lives and I don't think Tyler does that.

 

[zekko]

The easiest way to open the door is making people like you, which is getting over-shadowed in the Game.

I agree that this simple principle gets short shrift from the PUA community, where they keep telling you to act like a "jerk" or an "@sshole". The fact is, that if you are well liked by people, people will think you are cool, people will see you as a cool guy, and women will see you as a cool guy, and you have social proof and status.

Compare this to a guy who has a chip on his shoulder, walking around trying to prove how alpha he is, trying to always grab the center of attention spot, people are likely going to get sick of him quickly. They may ostracize him as "that weird guy", but if every talks badly about him, he's not going to have the social proof and status that will attract women to him.

That's not to say that there isn't a place for being alpha or dominant, it just has to be tempered with common sense, or as RSD might put it, "social calibration".

If being a "normal," "confident," was all that was needed in attracting a woman, then sites such as So Suave and the seduction community wouldn't exist

Most "normal, confident" guys probably wouldn't be here, because they're already getting laid.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Tyler Bricking In Dallas

Serious question,

How do you think an introverted and socially inept person will come off if he used Tyler's approach and body language, word for word?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Ed1RZcIKo

See Tyler SUCK After A Month Off! How Much Should YOU Go Out? (+Infield)


He'd look like Tyler did at the beginning of this video.

What throws me off is his attitude in the approach. Maybe he has that going for him, maybe he can be much more successful is he tones it down.

So you're buying into the social narrative that says Tyler should be "warm, fuzzy," and coddle people." Also, dude can basically have not only sex, (but threesomes,) whenever he wants and he's the a co-founder of a multi-million dollar company. According to your rationale, if he's friendlier and nicer, he's going to have EVEN more sex and make EVEN more money? Explain that logic.

I've seen many friends and friends of friends try to use Tyler's approach (AMOG mostly) in new social group approaches and they simply fail. They have read The Game and game related material intensively, but are socially unaware (unable to carry the conversation.)

Question? Have these dudes been on a RSD boot camp coached by Tyler or attended a RSD Hot Seat taught by Tyler? If your answer is "no," then they have used Tyler's approach per se. What your buddies did was incorporate into their game a VERY SMALL portion of Tyler's skill into their approaches. The infield footage you're seeing on Youtube is edited and is a very small portion of the sarge. In order to use Tyler's method, you would have to see Tyler's method in it's entirety and proper context. Your potnas didn't have positive results because they were using Tyler's approach out of context. It's kinda like writing a book report on War and Peace, with only reading the three of the middle chapters and all you have is that the book takes place during the Napoleonic Wars, the protagonists Russian aristocrats, and one of the aristocrats wanted to be a mason.

It's not their lack of knowledge about Game, but they lack the opportunity to apply Game.

So you live in a small :moon: town with a population of about 35,000?

 

[BeDJ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1Ed1RZcIKo

See Tyler SUCK After A Month Off! How Much Should YOU Go Out? (+Infield)


He'd look like Tyler did at the beginning of this video.



So you're buying into the social narrative that says Tyler should be "warm, fuzzy," and coddle people." Also, dude can basically have not only sex, (but threesomes,) whenever he wants and he's the a co-founder of a multi-million dollar company. According to your rationale, if he's friendlier and nicer, he's going to have EVEN more sex and make EVEN more money? Explain that logic.



Question? Have these dudes been on a RSD boot camp coached by Tyler or attended a RSD Hot Seat taught by Tyler? If your answer is "no," then they have used Tyler's approach per se. What your buddies did was incorporate into their game a VERY SMALL portion of Tyler's skill into their approaches. The infield footage you're seeing on Youtube is edited and is a very small portion of the sarge. In order to use Tyler's method, you would have to see Tyler's method in it's entirety and proper context. Your potnas didn't have positive results because they were using Tyler's approach out of context. It's kinda like writing a book report on War and Peace, with only reading the three of the middle chapters and all you have is that the book takes place during the Napoleonic Wars, the protagonists Russian aristocrats, and one of the aristocrats wanted to be a mason.



So you live in a small :moon: town with a population of about 35,000?

I appreciate the input and can understand where you are coming from. There's different schools of thoughts for attracting women and people in general, so I'm not arguing with you. Tyler's approach is more confrontational. I'm offering my opinions and experiences for those who don't want to do that to get women. I'm letting others know that a genuine approach can achieve great results as well, especially if brash attitudes put you off.

Off topic, your bold key is stuck.

 

[3agle 3yes]

Yes some of the info in that video is good, but seriously...who doesn't know this sh*t already?

The fact will always remain that most men have relationships and f*ck women so they can feel better about themselves.

This is generally the first and most obvious mistake a man can make.

Every PUA "guru", every PUA forum, everything that is good about advice concerning relationships with women...although not directly, all say the SAME thing.

Women ain't sh*t.

You don't need them to survive and f*cking them doesn't say anything about you.

There are probably 1000s of websites, videos, books about attracting women...how many do think there are about attracting men? Not much.

This thread doesn't deserve to go on to any more pages, pvssy isn't life or death...nor is it a divine entity.

It's just women people.

 

[zekko]

There's different schools of thoughts for attracting women and people in general, so I'm not arguing with you. Tyler's approach is more confrontational. I'm offering my opinions and experiences for those who don't want to do that to get women.

I think Tyler's a very smart guy who has studied his topic thoroughly, and I'm sure he knows more about attracting women than I do. But watching his video approaches, he does come across a bit like a dancing monkey, IMO, with all his being high energy "in state", constant little remarks designed to attract the girl, and all.

I lost a bit of respect for him after he had some children with his girlfriend, but still tried to push forward with the PUA lifestyle. He still thought he should be able to fvck around with club slvts or whoever he wanted. Not surprisingly, they broke up. Maybe for the sake of his kids he could have slowed it down some at least. I would think your kids would be more important than banging girls. But he's into all this "matrix" stuff and being "down the rabbit hole", so he doesn't believe in traditional upbringings.

Supposedly when he first started out he went into a club and started talking to some girls and he realized he was good at it, so he thought that this could be a skill set for him. So keep in mind also he's a bit of a natural, with all that study under Mystery and all on top of it.