"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Only 4/48 for this year so far, I'm behind. Time to hustle.
By 4/48, do you mean just Facebook game, or everything combined (work, Facebook, the bar, etc.)?
 

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By 4/48, do you mean just Facebook game, or everything combined (work, Facebook, the bar, etc.)?
I mean my fairly intense goal is to bag 48 girls in 2013. I've only tapped 4 so far. We'll see how it goes, as I end up dating some for a period of time (I'm kind of dating the last 2 I banged currently) and a few girls come back around or I re-initiate for 'old time's sake'. All of which means less time for new prospects, but I don't mind. I'm not JUST out for one night stands.

But yes, that's from everywhere.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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muscleman said:
I mean my fairly intense goal is to bag 48 girls in 2013. I've only tapped 4 so far. We'll see how it goes, as I end up dating some for a period of time (I'm kind of dating the last 2 I banged currently) and a few girls come back around or I re-initiate for 'old time's sake'. All of which means less time for new prospects, but I don't mind. I'm not JUST out for one night stands.

But yes, that's from everywhere.
Between Facebook, Bars, etc., how many girls do you say you try to pick up on, in a week, with the intentions of dating/sex? 5 per day? 5 total over 2 days?

I've read some of the back post, so I've got an idea (5 "heys" sent a day on Facebook), but I'm still curious.

Thanks for the help.
 

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AJedisRevenge said:
Between Facebook, Bars, etc., how many girls do you say you try to pick up on, in a week, with the intentions of dating/sex? 5 per day? 5 total over 2 days?

I've read some of the back post, so I've got an idea (5 "heys" sent a day on Facebook), but I'm still curious.

Thanks for the help.
It varies daily and although I don't have a hard quota (5, 10, etc), I have a rough amount of flirting I do on a daily basis, probably just because I'm used to it by now and I like the attention (do I sound like an AW yet?).

There are only so many hours in a day and I try to focus on self improvement first and foremost, with hitting on girls secondary. That said, on certain days I 'fill in' for other days. For example, last week I worked a lot so most of my flirting was done at work, 'out there'. This week I have much less shifts and am spending more time at home catching up on my to-do list, so due to decreased social interaction I'm focusing on POF/Facebook and sending out daily messages, friend requests, etc.

On average I'd say I communicate with 5 girls/day. By communicate I mean actually having a 2 way convo, as I can send out 20-30 messages in a day between POF/FB in less than an hour total, but that doesn't really count. I also don't count quick interactions (for example briefly flirting with girls at the bar while I'm working doesn't really count, as that could be any number depending on the night). I mean texting/IM/focused face-to-face. So 5/day, and that's any combination of girls I'm dating/have banged, am playing slow with, just starting to talk to, etc.

What I've learned after all this time is that it's a number game, ALWAYS. The key is to become a high value man so over the long haul your conversion rate goes up and the numbers start favoring you, if that makes sense.
 

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MM dude, you inspired me to step my game up and better myself. I recently got ditched by my ex girl and my game isn't there yet. I'm 19 so I still have time to develop. It's mt face to face game I mean I'm witty and funny I just need to put it to use. Quick Q there are two broads at my college one is def hb:8 the other hb:7.5. The 8 looks at me and turns around when I look st her and once we were in the hall and I made direct contact and she smiled hard laughed and said hey you think she's interested? The 7 she always tries to talk to me and laughs at my every word. She's shy she admitted it I think I'll press her for an 07 vintage MM movie date armrest up!
 

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L_T_D313 said:
MM dude, you inspired me to step my game up and better myself. I recently got ditched by my ex girl and my game isn't there yet. I'm 19 so I still have time to develop. It's mt face to face game I mean I'm witty and funny I just need to put it to use. Quick Q there are two broads at my college one is def hb:8 the other hb:7.5. The 8 looks at me and turns around when I look st her and once we were in the hall and I made direct contact and she smiled hard laughed and said hey you think she's interested? The 7 she always tries to talk to me and laughs at my every word. She's shy she admitted it I think I'll press her for an 07 vintage MM movie date armrest up!
So how did it work out?
 

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I got a couple fresh lay reports I'll be writing soon, but I'm also going to be starting a follow-up series of sorts dealing with relationship management as I end up dating some of these girls until the fun runs out. Is there anything in particular you all would like discussed in these future writings?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I know it isn't b.s. but I really want to explore that space past a plateau of game where you really good..what kinds of things you see putting in that extra effort.. how not to slip backwards etc.
 

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So how did it work out?
Ahh, I ended up dropping the class with the 8 in it. The 7 however I'm still trying, but she's barely at the mutual class. There are a few other easy women in my class that I'm going to try and game.

Shouldn't be to hard seeing how I'm elevating ny game. Just one quick Q. I can get chicks in my class internet etc.

I need advice on random females. They're always staring at me. I just need to build my game up to the point where I approach no problem. Without worrying about rejection, because when I say nothing I automatically get rejected, and feel regretful in the end. Any advice?
 

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L_T_D313 said:
Ahh, I ended up dropping the class with the 8 in it. The 7 however I'm still trying, but she's barely at the mutual class. There are a few other easy women in my class that I'm going to try and game.

Shouldn't be to hard seeing how I'm elevating ny game. Just one quick Q. I can get chicks in my class internet etc.

I need advice on random females. They're always staring at me. I just need to build my game up to the point where I approach no problem. Without worrying about rejection, because when I say nothing I automatically get rejected, and feel regretful in the end. Any advice?
Should have exchanged info and/or find them on Facebook. Not having a class together is no excuse.

As for random females, you answered your own question. If she's checking you out and you think she's cute, just say hi, how are you, what's your name, etc. Gotta go for it at some point ...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Should have exchanged info and/or find them on Facebook. Not having a class together is no excuse.

As for random females, you answered your own question. If she's checking you out and you think she's cute, just say hi, how are you, what's your name, etc. Gotta go for it at some point ...
You right I know one of the broads fb I'm gonna add her up. I got thos other chick I'm gaming now. During my highschool senior year she was chubby and a 5.5 now she's lost weight and is an 8 easily. I messaged her on fb complimenting her she returned it so that's an easy one.
 

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Muscleman, only just seen this thread, read the whole thing from start to finish in a night....

I take my hat off to you. You, sir, are a true pro.
 

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DonDiscovery said:
Muscleman, only just seen this thread, read the whole thing from start to finish in a night....

I take my hat off to you. You, sir, are a true pro.
Including all the linked lay reports? That's a lot to digest at once. And thanks for the compliment, but I don't think I'm pro, not yet. The guys in the hundreds, they're pros, though there are few out there who rack up numbers that high and don't have celebrity status. I think past a certain point you need to add another of the 5 traits (status, looks, wealth, fame, game). When you're high in any 3 (one of which is either fame or wealth), that's when I believe the numbers really start adding up.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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