"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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MTV True Life: I Live Another Life On The Web

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Do you sometimes feel as if you're living a double life? Are you pretending to be someone you're not? Do you have one identity in your everyday life, but a different one when you're alone and on-line? Does your virtual avatar make you feel confident behind your computer screen? Are you famous online but feel like you're invisible in real life?

Do you have trouble approaching someone for a date in person, but when you're behind the comfort of your computer, do the words just flow? Would you be afraid to be yourself if you were ever to come face-to-face with your online friends or companions? Do you get so caught up in the person you pretend to be on the web that you maintain that persona in person?

If you appear to be between the ages of 16 and 28, and live another life on the web, email us at: [email protected] with your story.
what do you guys think? How many of you guys are just web pimps but in real life your a totally different person?... i know some of you have been accusing people like Backbreaker about being a web pimp....discuss...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How many of you guys are just web pimps but in real life your a totally different person?...
Yeah, I don't think anyone would tell you if they were.
 

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One thing I've noticed, the "seduction community" is dominated by a few psychopath-level Key Board Jockeys. Sort of like the martial arts community before UFC. Nowadays, everyone in martial arts has to put up or shut up, but people here still let their egos grow to the point of mental illness.

Sometimes, you get these grand, inspiring posts like this one.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=104961

Read it?

Impressive. Also, it's pure fiction. In fact, the same guy has made several complete identities here, each involving months of painstaking work, just to impress a few guys on an internet forum.

I can recall Backbreaker, that guy John/DJF, and Skip2myLou as raving nutjobs, but the king of all keyboard jockeys just may be Player Supreme.

You guys keep saying that Mystery is an unstable attention-seeker with obvious mental problems, but Mystery has maybe 2000 posts on the Internet, including on a forum named after him. But there are sosuave keyboard jockeys with 30 to 50 thousand posts spanning 4-5 forums with 5 or 6 user names on each forum. What does that say about THEIR mental stability?

I'm just saying, if you're a less experienced guy on here, and you see some high and mighty twit who writes like he's a 14 year old IM user, saying "don't use any tricks or tactics, just be yourself", look out.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Phyzzle said:
One thing I've noticed, the "seduction community" is dominated by a few psychopath-level Key Board Jockeys. Sort of like the martial arts community before UFC. Nowadays, everyone in martial arts has to put up or shut up, but people here still let their egos grow to the point of mental illness.

Sometimes, you get these grand, inspiring posts like this one.
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=104961

Read it?

Impressive. Also, it's pure fiction. In fact, the same guy has made several complete identities here, each involving months of painstaking work, just to impress a few guys on an internet forum.

I can recall Backbreaker, that guy John/DJF, and Skip2myLou as raving nutjobs, but the king of all keyboard jockeys just may be Player Supreme.

You guys keep saying that Mystery is an unstable attention-seeker with obvious mental problems, but Mystery has maybe 2000 posts on the Internet, including on a forum named after him. But there are sosuave keyboard jockeys with 30 to 50 thousand posts spanning 4-5 forums with 5 or 6 user names on each forum. What does that say about THEIR mental stability?

I'm just saying, if you're a less experienced guy on here, and you see some high and mighty twit who writes like he's a 14 year old IM user, saying "don't use any tricks or tactics, just be yourself", look out.

you are absolutely retarded

Angelus was fake because he admitted it - thats about it

to throw those other names in there makes you the biggest idiot out there, as those other guys have actually provided photo evidence of their success with women, READ UP ON IT *****
 

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Oh yeah. Photos. That changes everything.

Backbreaker did post photo evidence of his success with women. Problem was, it was a cut and paste from a porn site. Which he admitted.

Angelus posted photos, too. Pics don't mean d!ck.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Oh yeah. Photos. That changes everything.

Backbreaker did post photo evidence of his success with women. Problem was, it was a cut and paste from a porn site. Which he admitted.

Angelus posted photos, too. Pics don't mean d!ck.


the fact that u are blatantly wrong about skip2mylou and player supreme shows the ignorance in your stupid-azzed posts

doesnt a 30 year old "mature" man have better things to do?
 

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I do have better things to do than read Skip and PlayerSupreme, which is why I never really have. So I don't know of any contradictions. It's quite possible they get laid a lot more than I do. I just noticed that they seemed to be completely batsh!t.

The thing is, reading this forum can be like reading those huge web pages about the government beaming thoughts into your head by satellite. I'm like, whoah, there are some messed up dudes out there. It's strangely fascinating.
 
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