“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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MSN chat script from another one of my HB

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ok here is a msn chat i just had with a hot chick i'm trying move in on. I'm a bit confused as to what she is trying to do. she showed interest one night and called me on my cell.. so i'm trying to chat her up some in return. This girl sent me a picture of her and her friend via email this week. They were all made up. I don't know if i should go out with her friend or not. It doesn't sound like the right thing to do in this situation. any suggestions? i'm starting to think that she is a don juanita


00Kevin says:
well it is friday.
00Kevin says:
perhaps a nice guy will take you out on a date
Hot Girl says:
i dont think so
00Kevin says:
don't be so hard on yourself.
Hot Girl says:
it was funny cause all of a sudden one of the cutomers phone and was being really nice to me..and then i talked to my manager Bob...who is so cool...and he told me that he told the customer that i was hot...and now this guy is so nice to me..hes never even met me
00Kevin says:
damn... i'm not there to hit on u. oh well
Hot Girl says:
before the customer..Doug was nice but not not like he was today
Hot Girl says:
ha ha
00Kevin says:
well i guess you charmed him
Hot Girl says:
he was like..call me if you dont want to talk to anyone in your company about something
Hot Girl says:
hes married to...ha ha ha
00Kevin says:
so you have no plans for tonight ?
Hot Girl says:
i might go to my friends bar or something low key if my friend does not stiff me
00Kevin says:
well we could go out for a coffee... unless you are too tired to go out with a handsome guy such as myself
Hot Girl says:
i have to go to the mall first and pick up stuff for my race on mon...i will then call my friend and see if she is going to stiff for bf...you can come with us out for a drink later if you want
Hot Girl says:
i have to go...so i call you later...if you want to come
00Kevin says:
a drink would be great but could be going out myself tonight. just call me i'll let you know
Hot Girl says:
ok...later
00Kevin says:
take care
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Kevster

You are really improving your communication skills. You did well!

There is only one thing that bugged me about that interaction

00Kevin says:
well we could go out for a coffee
Now there is nothing wrong with the coffee date thing, but you used this out of context. It just sounds like you are planning a mini date with her. It is much better to be spontaneous and really listen to what she is telling you. She basically said she´d be out with her friends and possibly getting sloppy. CAPITALIZE on that!

Hot Girl says:
i might go to my friends bar or something low key if my friend does not stiff me
Smooth Kevster Says:
Hey I am doin the same thing, well except for the friend stiffing me part. I am goin bar-hoppin with my buddy later on so maybe I´ll run into ya!

Hotgirl replies with blablabla

Smooth Kevster Says:
Hmm, tell ya what, lemme get your cellie number and I will give you a shout later on. We´ll link up and have a few laughs. You´ll buy me lots of drinks and I´ll probably get a little hammered. Just don´t try any funny business...I´m not that easy!

See the difference? You are already implying that she is chasing you. Chicks love this!

00Kevin says:
unless you are too tired to go out with a handsome guy such as myself
Not bad. More ****y than funny, but you messed up in one respect. NEVER give them an excuse to flake! Much better to reverse the roles like I did above.

SO WHAT DOES 00KEVIN DO NOW??

Give her a call later and find out what she is up to. Be relaxed and funny and

if she flakes,
dont let it bug you at all. Just be like "Oh, hey thas cool. You can always make it up to me some other time. I am pretty busy for the next few days but I´ll holler at ya when my schedule clears up....fluff talk blabla shortandsweet annnndddd hangs up"

if she she accepts,
Then its Game On!

You are doin fine though, sounds like she is definitely interested since she basically invited you out.

It´s nice to see you making such rapid progress man. Keep it up!
 

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Originally posted by Crotch Sniffer
Kevster

You are really improving your communication skills. You did well!

There is only one thing that bugged me about that interaction

Now there is nothing wrong with the coffee date thing, but you used this out of context. It just sounds like you are planning a mini date with her. It is much better to be spontaneous and really listen to what she is telling you. She basically said she´d be out with her friends and possibly getting sloppy. CAPITALIZE on that!

Smooth Kevster Says:
Hey I am doin the same thing, well except for the friend stiffing me part. I am goin bar-hoppin with my buddy later on so maybe I´ll run into ya!

Hotgirl replies with blablabla

Smooth Kevster Says:
Hmm, tell ya what, lemme get your cellie number and I will give you a shout later on. We´ll link up and have a few laughs. You´ll buy me lots of drinks and I´ll probably get a little hammered. Just don´t try any funny business...I´m not that easy!

See the difference? You are already implying that she is chasing you. Chicks love this!

Not bad. More ****y than funny, but you messed up in one respect. NEVER give them an excuse to flake! Much better to reverse the roles like I did above.

SO WHAT DOES 00KEVIN DO NOW??

Give her a call later and find out what she is up to. Be relaxed and funny and

if she flakes,
dont let it bug you at all. Just be like "Oh, hey thas cool. You can always make it up to me some other time. I am pretty busy for the next few days but I´ll holler at ya when my schedule clears up....fluff talk blabla shortandsweet annnndddd hangs up"

if she she accepts,
Then its Game On!

You are doin fine though, sounds like she is definitely interested since she basically invited you out.

It´s nice to see you making such rapid progress man. Keep it up!
I've been trying to get this girl out for sometime now. I just don't want to be out with her and her friends at a bar. I want to take her out alone.

It's strange some girls like to hang out at a bar when you first meet them for some reason. I wonder if it makes it easy on them. I guess if things go wrong, they can just punt u off.

The question that I still have is should i push her off and hang out with my friends or go to this bar? I would rather deal with her one on one. If i do go, i will most likely try to drag her out of the bar and go to a place of my choice.
 

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i got some tips for you

i dunno what your deal is with this chick, but if you have her number STOP TALKING ON THE NET WITH HER

if you dont, get her number asap then STOP TALKING ON THE NET WITH HER

good call about not going out with her and her friends... trust me on that one

also trynot to take her out on ffriday or saturday ... trust me on this one too, u will waste time and wont meet ohter chicks and if this one doesnt workout, then you just wasted a couple of weekends, get me?

do not ask her on a date, tell her, assume she wants your nuts and wants to go out

be like
"im going to a party but ill give you a call later, if your lucky."

something along those lines

always act like your busy

gl
 

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And the verdict isssssssssss UNINTERESTED!

I think that you were a bit too ****y with her with your smart @$$ remarks. Moreover, you showed a little neediness when you asked her for coffee, and then a little arrogance when you said "handsome guy like myself". You might think that sounded funny, but from her perspective it is just plain arrogant.

Anyhow, dont take my criticism personally. Learn from it so you do better next time. We're all on the same team here! ;)
 

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Originally posted by white_hype
i got some tips for you

i dunno what your deal is with this chick, but if you have her number STOP TALKING ON THE NET WITH HER

if you dont, get her number asap then STOP TALKING ON THE NET WITH HER

good call about not going out with her and her friends... trust me on that one

also trynot to take her out on ffriday or saturday ... trust me on this one too, u will waste time and wont meet ohter chicks and if this one doesnt workout, then you just wasted a couple of weekends, get me?

do not ask her on a date, tell her, assume she wants your nuts and wants to go out

be like
"im going to a party but ill give you a call later, if your lucky."

something along those lines

always act like your busy

gl
this is all good advice i agree with it 100%


I could just start calling her, but she is really self centric on the phone. The most i do with chicks like that is become a passive listener. "wow, right, cool.. i see... etc...."

do you have tips for that kind of girl?

yes i have her email, msn, phone, and cell phone #.
 
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Originally posted by k_hectic
And the verdict isssssssssss UNINTERESTED!

I think that you were a bit too ****y with her with your smart @$$ remarks. Moreover, you showed a little neediness when you asked her for coffee, and then a little arrogance when you said "handsome guy like myself". You might think that sounded funny, but from her perspective it is just plain arrogant.

Anyhow, dont take my criticism personally. Learn from it so you do better next time. We're all on the same team here! ;)
well i didn't post the entire conversation, but asking her out for a coffee was a bit out of place, i wasn't on my game when i was talking to her. I should of just realized that quick and stoped chating with her. Usually if i see her on line i don't start a conversation with her. So i'm not the one who seems needy.

as for the ****y ****.. i don't think she cared to much.

i called her on her cell phone later on. She was on the way to store to buy some rum and coke. The phone went dead so i waited for a while to call her back. she told me what club she and her friends were going to . She also said that she planned to get drunk with her friends before going there.

when i called her the second time she was drunk. i chatted to her for a bit and then i told her i was going to call my friend tamee and see what she was up to.
 

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I dont understand, you ask her out on a coffee date and then say your going out already for a drink with your friends?

Anyway, its verrrry obvious that she's not interested in you, and though i dont recommend speaking to chicks on the net, you can still manage to have some great conversations with girls when theres a lot of chemistry every now and again. This was not one of them dude, move on.
 
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Some great advice on this thread. There are a few issues you should really think about here.

1) Meeting her with her friends
Why not? It´s an excellent opportunity to gain some social proof. Make her friends fall in love with you! Don´t focus on isolating her until you attract her more. Its like you are thinkin about the End Zone when you have no strategy to get there in the first place. Charm them all and what´s the worst case scenario? You end up with a few hotties LJBFs who will social proof you for other HBs. Just be cool and have a good time cos that is more attractive than this "stalker" persona you are sporting, safe behind your keyboard and thinkin of ways to separate her from her friends.

2) Phone Game
So she talks a lot huh? Remember when I was tellin you in your other thread that there is a time to be nice and a time to be a prick? Well, it´s prick time my friend. You need to be genuine with her and not be afraid to say what is on your mind. When she starts talkin too much, be honest and point it out to her. "Damn girl, you really do talk a lot!" or "Wow, do you always ramble on like this with guys? I feel sorry for your future husband". Say it in a C&F way and she will be like OMG I cant believ you said that. 9 times out of 10, these girls will tease you right back and that is when you push things further...

3) Acting like you are busy
Hahahahaha! It shouldn´t be an act! You are handling this well, especially when you told her you were meeting some other girl. If I were you, I´d just keep using these girls for practice. Dont worry about screwing them just yet. As I said before, it is good to have hot girl buddies, a few sexy friends to make other HBs wonder about you when you hit the clubs.

Think about it
 

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Originally posted by Donjuanpablo
I dont understand, you ask her out on a coffee date and then say your going out already for a drink with your friends?

Anyway, its verrrry obvious that she's not interested in you, and though i dont recommend speaking to chicks on the net, you can still manage to have some great conversations with girls when theres a lot of chemistry every now and again. This was not one of them dude, move on.
it's simple. when a girl IS interested it is obvious. She was more interested in getting drunk with her friends then going out with me that night. so i just moved on to the next girl on my list. When girls get drunk with their friends it's usually to whine about their ex boyfriends or bash men. It's a good idea to stay away from a girl and her friends if you haven't taken her on a date yet. If her friends meet you, you will need their approval before you get hers.

I would also like to point out that i didn't meet this chick over then net. I met her at work when she was a summer student. I only saw her for 3 days but i managed to get her contact info rather quick. I even charmed her up a bit.

I think it's good to keep your girls on msn. That way they will send you a message when they are feeling vulnerable. As soon as this occurs you can move in
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Originally posted by Crotch Sniffer
Some great advice on this thread. There are a few issues you should really think about here.

1) Meeting her with her friends
Why not? It´s an excellent opportunity to gain some social proof. Make her friends fall in love with you! Don´t focus on isolating her until you attract her more. Its like you are thinkin about the End Zone when you have no strategy to get there in the first place. Charm them all and what´s the worst case scenario? You end up with a few hotties LJBFs who will social proof you for other HBs. Just be cool and have a good time cos that is more attractive than this "stalker" persona you are sporting, safe behind your keyboard and thinkin of ways to separate her from her friends.

It was my plan to bring my hot friend tamee along or even my bro but i couldn't get anyone to go out that night. I'm not going to be a ****en loser and go to a club by myself. That would really make me a stalker. I think i did best by just cutting the convo short and not go out with her.

I've encountered this situation before, you either go with your friends or you don't go at all. going with another hot chick and her friends is best.
 

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Originally posted by Donjuanpablo
I dont understand, you ask her out on a coffee date and then say your going out already for a drink with your friends?

Anyway, its verrrry obvious that she's not interested in you, and though i dont recommend speaking to chicks on the net, you can still manage to have some great conversations with girls when theres a lot of chemistry every now and again. This was not one of them dude, move on.
I couldn't possibly agree with this more.

Get off the silly chat program and go find a new girl to approach.
 
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