"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Last school year, I realized I had wasted most of my year, I was too caught up and paranoid about what others thought, that I just didn't approach anyone, but sometime during April, I decided to face my fears and started to approach girls. I told myself that next year I was going to get a girlfriend, get laid and get a lot of friends, but now, it's next year and none of that has happened and I'm pretty much at where I was at the end of last school year. I want to accelerate the pace, but I don't know how to go about doing it and even when I do approach women, nothing interesting ever happens. I'll approach them, we'll have conversation, but I never really seem to spark attraction with the girl and she just sees me as another guy, not someone she would want to **** with, yeah, I said it. So, how do I speed up seduction with them or, forget speed seduction, how do I make the girl attracted to me? How do I make the girl want me? I just can't seem to do it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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None replied, so I'm here to save the day!
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I told myself that next year I was going to get a girlfriend, get laid and get a lot of friends, but now, it's next year and none of that has happened and I'm pretty much at where I was at the end of last school year.
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- Dude, first off, you should aim to better yourself instead of aiming for SECONDARY stuff like girlfriends and sex. How about improve your confidence, attitude, image, social skills before heading towards the other stuff?


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when I do approach women, nothing interesting ever happens. I'll approach them, we'll have conversation, but I never really seem to spark attraction with the girl and she just sees me as another guy, not someone she would want to **** with, yeah, I said it.
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- My best bet is that she labels you as just another guy/friend, simply because you're not using the right cards to attract. Which ones to use you ask? Confidence, humor, ****y/funny, kino. Those are the best ones to use to ATTRACT. In addition, I think you're already approaching with a desire and plan, which is obviously to screw her. DROP ANY PLANS OR DESIRES OR GOALS when approaching (Thanks to The Tao of Steve film!) Just approach with a clear mind and use the DJ methods.


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forget speed seduction, how do I make the girl attracted to me? How do I make the girl want me? I just can't seem to do it.
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- There are plenty of ways to get her attracted to you, but I say stick with the solid principles of the Don Juan: C&F, Kino, Confidence. Combine those 3 and you got yourself a nice combo of ATTRACTION. Once you're in, make her want you by building RAPPORT through dates and so on.

I hope this helps :woo:
 

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Viper, seriously, give me a phone call some time. PM me for details.

It's all confidence and self image. Seriously, I've met a few DJs on this forum, introduced a few to the forum, speak with lots of them on AIM and also over the phone.

It's all good man, juss hit me up and we'll get it fixed. You're now on the AC/DC program.
 

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Originally posted by AC/DC
Viper, seriously, give me a phone call some time. PM me for details.

It's all confidence and self image. Seriously, I've met a few DJs on this forum, introduced a few to the forum, speak with lots of them on AIM and also over the phone.

It's all good man, juss hit me up and we'll get it fixed. You're now on the AC/DC program.
Appreciate the advice, personally I don't think self-confidence or self-image has anything to do with it. Besides, having self-confidence or whatever, isn't going to instantly make you some master pick up artists. I have a pretty good self-confidence though, if someone tries wants to an *******, kick his ass or just ignore the idiot, he's probably not worthy of my royal ass kicking.
 

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Originally posted by Viper
Appreciate the advice, personally I don't think self-confidence or self-image has anything to do with it. Besides, having self-confidence or whatever, isn't going to instantly make you some master pick up artists. I have a pretty good self-confidence though, if someone tries wants to an *******, kick his ass or just ignore the idiot, he's probably not worthy of my royal ass kicking.
1. Self confidence WILL have a dramatic effect on how you handle women. If your confident youll say things you normally wouldnt say, youll be willing to walk away, and youll have a good aura.

2. Im pretty sure you dont have much confidence. By youre post you seem like youre on the defensive all the time trying to prove something to everyone, such as you have confidence and you wont take their sh*t...not the way to do things.

If you were as confident as you thought, you wouldnt have made this post. You would be able to attract at least SOME girls by having enough confidence to make a move. If youre turning down help from someone like ac/dc then youre a fool. Obviously coming to this site hasnt helped you, yet youre asking for MORE advice AGAIN. Look at your previous post, theyre filled with TONS of information to help YOU; instead of taking any advice, you bashed on everyone for giving you constructive critisism. Take AC up on his advice, you have NOTHING to lose. Let your ego go for a little while. Im awaiting to see how youll respond to my post. Lets see how much confidence you truly have. Know this was meant to help you.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Originally posted by oakraiderz2
1. Self confidence WILL have a dramatic effect on how you handle women. If your confident youll say things you normally wouldnt say, youll be willing to walk away, and youll have a good aura.

2. Im pretty sure you dont have much confidence. By youre post you seem like youre on the defensive all the time trying to prove something to everyone, such as you have confidence and you wont take their sh*t...not the way to do things.

If you were as confident as you thought, you wouldnt have made this post. You would be able to attract at least SOME girls by having enough confidence to make a move. If youre turning down help from someone like ac/dc then youre a fool. Obviously coming to this site hasnt helped you, yet youre asking for MORE advice AGAIN. Look at your previous post, theyre filled with TONS of information to help YOU; instead of taking any advice, you bashed on everyone for giving you constructive critisism. Take AC up on his advice, you have NOTHING to lose. Let your ego go for a little while. Im awaiting to see how youll respond to my post. Lets see how much confidence you truly have. Know this was meant to help you.
Oh, but I simply disagreed with him, I didn't actually turn him down. Like I've said before, even if I adapt a sense of complete self-confidence, that isn't going to change anything, if I'm still doing the wrong thing, as far as attracting women goes, self-confidence isn't going to change anything. I approach a lot of girls and while I can usually hold a good convo with them, after that, nothing, she still sees me as just another guy. I admit, I don't have very good self-confidence, but you can't blame me with all these *******s around. Speaking of *******s, there's this group of kids who I can't stand on the wrestling team and instead of whining, I want to know what I can do about it. I try my best to not let these kids get to me, but it's hard, they always talk sh*t, they always brag, they NEVER shut up and they annoy the hell out of me, especially the little freshmen guy with the high pitched voice. I would them beat them up, but the thing is, is that were on the same team, so I can't necessarily do that, besides, when you try to fight these guys that back out with excuses like, "Come on man, it aint that serious". All of them are also at least in one of my classes. Basically, I want to know how to get these dudes off my back.
 

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hello. if u believe that they will treat u like just another guy friend. then u will be one. the confidence that they will be attracted to you is more impt than you think it is.
 

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Unfortunately, viper, everyone else is right this time and you aren't. It's hard to hear, but you have been working at this since last year with no results.

In that same time, I've f*cked around with girls for the first time, now have a smoking hott girlfriend, and I feel like I can spark attraction in ANY woman I want. I said it, anyone.

It is almost 100% mindset. There is no magic formula that people will tell you. You need the mindset, which will built into confidence about attracting women, which will build into success.

Just my idea, but I would start listening to what some other people said, because they are damn right.
 

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Originally posted by kev me723
Unfortunately, viper, everyone else is right this time and you aren't. It's hard to hear, but you have been working at this since last year with no results.

In that same time, I've f*cked around with girls for the first time, now have a smoking hott girlfriend, and I feel like I can spark attraction in ANY woman I want. I said it, anyone.

It is almost 100% mindset. There is no magic formula that people will tell you. You need the mindset, which will built into confidence about attracting women, which will build into success.

Just my idea, but I would start listening to what some other people said, because they are damn right.
Calm down buddy, no one ever said they were wrong. Although I have to say that I disagree with you a little, I can tell myself I'm the greatest, best looking guy in the world, approach a girl, she's not attracted, but hey, you've still got your good mindset. I've approached several girls, but the same thing always happens, she's just not interested. Only once has a girl that I've approached, actually said "Hi" to me, after I approached her, most girls who I've approached, never talk to me again afterwords, unless we're in the same class or something.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Originally posted by Viper
Calm down buddy, no one ever said they were wrong. Although I have to say that I disagree with you a little, I can tell myself I'm the greatest, best looking guy in the world, approach a girl, she's not attracted, but hey, you've still got your good mindset. I've approached several girls, but the same thing always happens, she's just not interested. Only once has a girl that I've approached, actually said "Hi" to me, after I approached her, most girls who I've approached, never talk to me again afterwords.
Listen to homeboy ^^^.

You shouldnt be running around saying,"Im the hottest guy in the world,"(because youre not) because thats not being confident. Knowing that youre attractive and are the type of person people want to be around is a more positive midset. Lower your standards, youre not brad pitt, so dont try for class A girls, cause your not ready. No one is saying your wrong, you just happen to think youre right when youve been doing the same thing for a year, expecting different results...(the definition of insanity). Erase your mindset and start from scratch.
 

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Eh, I didn't feel like reading all of the post, maybe later I will...but...what I've read so far...I'd say, work on your inner game first. Yuor sstandrads, your beliefs, your goals...etc...find who you want to be first, and then be that person...
 

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no offense.. but stop crying and do it... you never heard alexander the great crying about how its so hard to take over the world.. no... he took what he wanted.. now take what you want and get THOSE FRIGGIN GIRLS... NO MORE CRYING THIS IS GAME TIME... DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO WIN BRO COME ON BE A MAN
 

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Originally posted by steroidsrule
no offense.. but stop crying and do it... you never heard alexander the great crying about how its so hard to take over the world.. no... he took what he wanted.. now take what you want and get THOSE FRIGGIN GIRLS... NO MORE CRYING THIS IS GAME TIME... DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO WIN BRO COME ON BE A MAN
Sigh... what do you want me to do? Just persue the girl until she gets interested? Besides, Alexander the Great took countries by force, you can't force a girl to become interested in you. All I can do is approach her and try to get her, if she's not interested, not much I can do.
 

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Sigh... what do you want me to do? Just persue the girl until she gets interested? Besides, Alexander the Great took countries by force, you can't force a girl to become interested in you.
Force her mind, with the DJ methods, to love you ;) or better, dont force it, make it come natural.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by Viper
Sigh... what do you want me to do? Just persue the girl until she gets interested? Besides, Alexander the Great took countries by force, you can't force a girl to become interested in you. All I can do is approach her and try to get her, if she's not interested, not much I can do.
You're stubborn, thats why this process is so hard. You need to buy into the system.

Make her interested. Give AC/DC a phone call.
 

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You're stubborn, thats why this process is so hard. You need to buy into the system.

Make her interested. Give AC/DC a phone call.
Cool, cool, but I hope you have AIM or something, because I don't give my number out to anyone I don't know well, no offense dude.
 

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"The only thing you have to give up in your life to get what you want is the story of why you can't have it."

-Tony Robbins-

Just a little food to chew on....
 

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"The only thing you have to give up in your life to get what you want is the story of why you can't have it."

-Tony Robbins-

Just a little food to chew on....
I don't really believe that, I've approached a bunch of girls, nothing from any of them, maybe good conversation, but not much rapport or interest going on there. Like I've said before, the only thing I can do is approach the girl, whether she's interested or not, not that's her choice, not mine. Seems like my High School year is goin' nowhere, sure I got good grades and sh*t, but I still have few friends and I've never even gotten a date yet and I wonder? Is this just fate? Will I just always be insecure and paranoid? Will I never have good friends? Will my many good talents never be recognized? Will I never make a name for myself? That's what its looking like now. Geez, if my parents didn't decide to move, things would be a lot better.
 

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Originally posted by Viper
Cool, cool, but I hope you have AIM or something, because I don't give my number out to anyone I don't know well, no offense dude.
1st, you're in Ohio. I'm in California. What are you so paranoid about?
2nd, you can block your number by pressing *67 before you dial.
3rd, I have AIM.. "HangTen3000" and I'm expecting to hear from you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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