"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Moving In With Hot Russian Girl in NYC?

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Well after 6 months in NYC I managed to kill 2 birds with one stone.

I found a hot, single woman who wants to date me, and it also turns out she has a room available to rent within walking distance to my work. Oh and it turns out by coincidence she is a stripper.

She and I only spent about 25 seconds talking in person the night we met at a grocery store last week, so I must have done something right because the owner set us up the next day, she has texted every day since, and is already ready to have me move in.

For $50 per night she would be saving me $125 per night off the ($175 per night with discount) hotel costs. This would amount to about a 33% raise in after-expenses, take-home pay. Plus I could cook meals there and save even more. And at $500 for 10 nights it's a pretty good deal seeing that most strippers charge $500 for an hour.

Mainly wanting to save the money, I told her we should keep it platonic. But she reminded me she is a nympho and that I'll probably "tear her Catholic arse apart". She has pretty much texted non stop all week.

This woman (31, HB8, Russian, no kids) is husband hunting if ever a woman was. Oh and by my having dated another stripper she seems to trust me. It was also the social proof she needed. It also helped me to understand what I was getting into (for one, I guessed what she did after about 25 messages in conversation).

Anyhow, we're going on our first date tonight and if it works out I'm moving in with her this week.

But I'm wondering whether I'll end up with the Red Mafia after me?

Thoughts?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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bigneil said:
Well after 6 months in NYC I managed to kill 2 birds with one stone.

I found a hot, single woman who wants to date me, and it also turns out she has a room available to rent within walking distance to my work. Oh and it turns out by coincidence she is a stripper.

She and I only spent about 25 seconds talking in person the night we met at a grocery store last week, so I must have done something right because the owner set us up the next day, she has texted every day since, and is already ready to have me move in.

For $50 per night she would be saving me $125 per night off the ($175 per night with discount) hotel costs. This would amount to about a 33% raise in after-expenses, take-home pay. Plus I could cook meals there and save even more. And at $500 for 10 nights it's a pretty good deal seeing that most strippers charge $500 for an hour.

Mainly wanting to save the money, I told her we should keep it platonic. But she reminded me she is a nympho and that I'll probably "tear her Catholic arse apart". She has pretty much texted non stop all week.

This woman (31, HB8, Russian, no kids) is husband hunting if ever a woman was. Oh and by my having dated another stripper she seems to trust me. It was also the social proof she needed. It also helped me to understand what I was getting into (for one, I guessed what she did after about 25 messages in conversation).

Anyhow, we're going on our first date tonight and if it works out I'm moving in with her this week.

But I'm wondering whether I'll end up with the Red Mafia after me?

Thoughts?

lol, you gonna marry a stripper?
 

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I dunno, you don't know what sort of crazy she is yet. Sounds like fun, but be careful.
 

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Strippers aren't exactly high class women.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Does she work at Gallagher's? All Russian over there. And yes, Rusky strippers are linked with the Red Mafia, so be careful. She probably needs papers for US citizenship as well. Do not let her/them pay you off to marry her if it comes up. You'll be a lifer at that point.
 

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VladPatton said:
Does she work at Gallagher's? All Russian over there. And yes, Rusky strippers are linked with the Red Mafia, so be careful. She probably needs papers for US citizenship as well. Do not let her/them pay you off to marry her if it comes up. You'll be a lifer at that point.
No, its not Gallaghers. That was my first question. She lives only 2 blocks from there. I went there twice, one in Oct, once in April. I saw the same Russian girl both times (IMO the hottest one). When I remembered her birthday after a 6 month hiatus she put her arms around me and actually gave me a real hug, and held me for a long time. Super rare for strippers, but it shows they are lonely too. She said "you don't need me, you don't need to be here" and I said "I know". Met the other one a week later.
 

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You know you said something really stupid when even The Loner can ridicule you.
 

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Down Low said:
You know you said something really stupid when even The Loner can ridicule you.
And you know you ARE really stupid if you thought what he said was even humorous.

In the meantime I'm just showing Down Low and the doubters how it's done.
 
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Update: Tonight we met for dinner and had great chemistry. She kept saying how comfortable she felt with me. She told me she is not really a stripper. She could be though. In fact, she's hotter than my 21 year old. She was only joking when she said she was a stripper bc Russian women are stereotyped. She is a bartender. Not owned by the mob after all. In fact, her rich father takes care of her. She showed me her place and I told her I'll take it. Moving in Fridary.

To Be Continued...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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bigneil said:
Update: Tonight we met for dinner and had great chemistry. She kept saying how comfortable she felt with me. She told me she is not really a stripper. She could be though. In fact, she's hotter than my 21 year old. She was only joking when she said she was a stripper bc Russian women are stereotyped. She is a bartender. Not owned by the mob after all. In fact, her rich father takes care of her. She showed me her place and I told her I'll take it. Moving in Fridary.

To Be Continued...

Once you move in, let us know if Daddy Warbucks installed a stripper pole on a lit stage in the bedroom of her place BigNeil! :up:
 

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Yeah, and make sure you have a lot of chilled Vodka read for when all of her 250 lb. russky friends show up uninvited.
 

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I wouldn't f*** around with a Russian stripper in NYC dude... not unless you're a chronic adrenaline junkie...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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bigneil said:
I'm just showing Down Low and the doubters how it's done.
What part of Texas are you from? They have lots of trashy immigrants there, too. I'm sure you wouldn't think it an accomplishment to pick up some lice-infested bar creature from the Mex-Mex pool room. Rather, you'd be embarrassed to tell the boys about it.

You should understand that a "Russian" [-speaking FSR Central Asian] bar skank is as low as you can go in [more-or-less "white"] white trash from Europe. Just because she can blush and has saggy Arab- and North African-type breasts that faintly remind you of a buxom Nordic lass, doesn't mean she's some kind of great catch.
 

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As I said before, it turns out she is NOT a stripper. She was only joking when I asked her that via text when we first met.

She's a hot, single woman with no kids but who wants a family. She is 31 years old, doesn't drink at all, looks about 28, 5'1", 105lb and she is going to save me $125 per night. And I can even expense most of our meals and entertainment. Not only that, but a good friend of mine and the owner of a market on Queens Blvd told me he's known her for 8 years and that she's a sweetheart. He said she's not about money but about finding a good man. She looks like a former model. Wants a man to dominate her. Told me that when we met she thought it was destiny.

Sounds close to ideal to me. Trashy? If anyone can land a better woman during a 20 second chance encounter I'd be surprised. Especially in NYC.

She moved to the US 10 years ago but she was never a stripper. She hates strippers, especially ones from the US who she says had priviliges and didn't need to take that route. But she likes hanging out at strip bars sometimes and is bicurious (which is what prompted me to originally ask).

Anyhow, last night I got the keys to her place and I'm moving in today.

It's crazy because I've never even kissed her, but she's already talking about marriage. We had two dinner dates and she held my hand when we walked. She said she wants to be romantic tonight and watch a movie and cuddle but that's it. And that her only bad habit is that she walks around naked. I'm hoping to keep it platonic but probably won't be able to resist her.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Dude, how little experience with women do you honestly have? This girl is 100% HPD/BPD take it to the bank.

My initial gut instinct as well - well posted, PPRF!!

BPD-tendencied women promise you the fooken world blindly because that is how they set that ball-ripping/scathing hook into your scrotum and you will have your balls falling out into the left field and be left ball-less after 3 months.

My previous BPD-like Russian ex-wife did the exact same thing - wanted to marry, have kids: all under 3 months period. After 2 months living together - she punches me in the face leaving blood. That's how lovely she will be, especially the Russian hot and quick temper - Russian women are strong built, and have big boned hands and fists, enjoy them thoroughly.
 

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Free advice: a lot of these FSR Central Asians see a promise to marry as an iron-clad contract. Her family will go ape sh1t on you if they think you're renegging. Never ever make her think you're open to the idea of marrying her. Try it, and come home some day to find your stuff scattered up and down the block and the locks changed.
 

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You are mixing business with love, that usually never ends well.

Did you have sex with her? Did you even kiss her? Or did you just have dinner with her?

If your answer is no, then moving in with someone you have the intent of building a relationship is a horrible idea. Even if your answer was yes you should wait a bit. She's keeping you around for something, I don't know what, but I myself would be suspicious.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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