"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Move with it or drop it?

PimpOfTheSouth

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Got a girls number that works at the mall with me however we don't work at the same place. We've texted rather briefly but I haven't got her out yet. This is a transcript from last night. My question is should I continue with this or drop it? Thoughts?

Me: I think your pretty cute. I was told you had a bf?

Her: I have an ex boyfriend who I was with for a long time, but I'm not trying to look for a relationship rn ya know?

Me: Well im going to be honest just because I think a girl is good-looking don't mean she's relationship material. Im the type thats like lets chill if something happens it does if not oh well.

Her: That sounds fun id be more than happy to hangout with you
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Lozboss

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friendzone alert.

Your chat was weak - Well im going to be honest just because I think a girl is good-looking don't mean she's relationship material. Im the type thats like lets chill if something happens it does if not oh well. is rubbish.

NEXT her right now.
 

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Ahh I see. I will say though with all honesty I haven't been friend zoned in years. I also don't consider her a gf candidate. I've scored in a very similar position in the past.
 

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Then why ask for advice if you're in denial about reading the signs..,,
 

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PimpOfTheSouth said:
Got a girls number that works at the mall with me however we don't work at the same place. We've texted rather briefly but I haven't got her out yet. This is a transcript from last night. My question is should I continue with this or drop it? Thoughts?

Me: I think your pretty cute. I was told you had a bf?

Her: I have an ex boyfriend who I was with for a long time, but I'm not trying to look for a relationship rn ya know?

Me: Well im going to be honest just because I think a girl is good-looking don't mean she's relationship material. Im the type thats like lets chill if something happens it does if not oh well.

Her: That sounds fun id be more than happy to hangout with you
A woman doesn't know what she wants. She 'says' she doesn't want a relationship. What she says and what she does are 2 different things. I'd meet up - hold a dominant frame and be sexual, try to escalate. If you don't get the bang or anything sexual out of it then next it.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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See you guys text like this, then be the first to cry on sosuave that texting doesn't work.

Pro Tip: Texts should be kept light, fun, & to the point. Texting 'I heard you have a boyfriend.' is a vibe killer and shouldn't be a texting conversation. Im not sure why you would say this in the first place since you claim to not be interested in her relationship wise.

Pro Tip2: You don't need to overtly explain to her that you're not looking for a relationship, actions speak louder than words, and your behavior should be used to display that you won't commit easily. Your second text basically says, 'I don't commit easily' and thats almost as lame as a chick telling you 'She's worth the wait'. You got lucky here since she said that she still wants to see you, but most chicks Wouldn't of texted you back after saying something like that.

Pro Tip3: Don't talk around things you mean to say. Put some flare into what you say. 'I think you're pretty cute.' is something 8th graders pass to each other on notes. Instead you could've said something playful like; 'You looked nice, or did I just catch you on a good day? :p' or more direct 'You are attractive.' Saying things with flare is what leads to playful convos which leads to >rapport built which then leads >comfort and familiarity. Ultimately leading upto her >>lying naked in your bed

Texts aren't meant to have serious conversations. Which is what 'what your searching for in a relationship' falls under. Just my 2 cents though Op.
 

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PimpOfTheSouth said:
Got a girls number that works at the mall with me however we don't work at the same place. We've texted rather briefly but I haven't got her out yet. This is a transcript from last night. My question is should I continue with this or drop it? Thoughts?

Me: I think your pretty cute. I was told you had a bf?

:You sound insecure, don't ask if she has a boyfriend. It shouldn't matter to you.

Her: I have an ex boyfriend who I was with for a long time, but I'm not trying to look for a relationship rn ya know? ����

in chick talk: I don't want to be responsible for your neediness. Too many guys I meet want relationships and i'm tired of it.

Me: Well im going to be honest just because I think a girl is good-looking don't mean she's relationship material. Im the type thats like lets chill if something happens it does if not oh well.

Nice rebound. Still you're leaking a little. I always like to say "Woah, who says I wanted a relationship? take it show dork ;)"

Her: That sounds fun id be more than happy to hangout with you ��
Alright i'll give it a chance but don't say I warned you
Don't listen to what they say, look at what they do. Be friends, have fun, take the lead and give her the ultimate experience of what its like being with a man.

ps. stop talking about relationships. think of her as your bratty little sis.


switch7 said:
A woman doesn't know what she wants. She 'says' she doesn't want a relationship. What she says and what she does are 2 different things. I'd meet up - hold a dominant frame and be sexual, try to escalate. If you don't get the bang or anything sexual out of it then next it.
YES... to an extent. Even if you don't bang her, it doesn't mean you failed. Creating sexual chemistry will only make her want him more.. it's like a tea kettle steaming louder and louder and louder By doing this, HE controls the sexual frame.. not her.
 
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