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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Hey Guys,

I was at the mall about an hour ago, and my attention was caught by a beautiful HB9.

I see all these HB7+ walking around, problem is, they are with parents, most with the mother.

So does anyone know of a good way to approach a mother/daughter set?
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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I know with a wingman it might now be so bad. Have wing isolate/engage the mother, then the daughter can be engaged.

But how to do it without a wingman? Any ideas?
 
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isolate the mother?

what mom in their right mind would go for that?
 
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THE_ADDMAN said:
isolate the mother?

what mom in their right mind would go for that?
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Have the wing move the mother away for a few minutes, not hit on her. Use an idirect opener, and then keep the mother busy. It's not that hard to simply occupy her. Obviously this takes a good wingman.

Again, how to do it without a wingman? That is the riddle to me.
 

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And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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I'm pretty sure the mother wouldnt walk off with a total stranger for a few mins, and leave her attractive daughter with another total stranger, but if you believe it, go for it.

without a wingman... my only advice would be to wait until the mother is away for a few mins, strike up a conversation with the girl, then when the mother returns, introduce yourself as a "friend from school" with a sly smile to the girl. If you did well and got her interest, she'll play along. After this, be super direct and say to the girl "I cant believe you forget my Email address.. ok, I'll give it to you again *write it out and give it to her* have a good one :)"
 
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Stores, you can't hit it alone while they walk, unless you want that...rejection desire you have inside of you fulfilled...
 
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Not enough time.

THE_ADDMAN said:
I'm pretty sure the mother wouldnt walk off with a total stranger for a few mins, and leave her attractive daughter with another total stranger, but if you believe it, go for it.

without a wingman... my only advice would be to wait until the mother is away for a few mins, strike up a conversation with the girl, then when the mother returns, introduce yourself as a "friend from school" with a sly smile to the girl. If you did well and got her interest, she'll play along. After this, be super direct and say to the girl "I cant believe you forget my Email address.. ok, I'll give it to you again *write it out and give it to her* have a good one :)"
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With a wing, you don't need to get the mother far away, just a few feet off, and distracted, while the DJ can move in on the daughter.

See, the whole thing is, I see this set all the freaking time, and I can't think of a way to do it on my own. Also, while I'd be willing to wing in a situation like this, and take care of the mother for a few minutes, I don't know a single wing who would have the balls to distract the mother.

So Addman, I appreciate the advice, but it's still a little impractical. I can't stalk the girl and her mother through the mall and watch when the girl is separated for a few seconds. The only way to deal with the set, is to approach the two at the same time. The problem is, how to gain access to the daughter without setting off alarms with the mother.

Maybe I'm just a dreamer, but I think that every set should be taken advantage off, and there are a TON of these mother/daughter sets.


-E.Nigma
 
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You guys are so full of sh!t. None of you would walk up to a chick, not to mention a chick with her mother.

rofl nerds.

Seriously, some of you are a joke.
 
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Brian Griffin said:
You guys are so full of sh!t. None of you would walk up to a chick, not to mention a chick with her mother.

rofl nerds.

Seriously, some of you are a joke.
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Actually, I've decided to approach every single set I can, when I'm out. So far I have stopped people walkin the other way, dead in their tracks when I had the desire to.

So please don't transfer your anxiety onto others. I'm willing to try just about anything that's logical. Is that really such a bad thing?

In this instance I just need some way to approach, a way that could actually lead to something other then silent akwardnes.

-E.Nigma

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Honestly I'd never walk up to a mom unless she had *that look* in her eyes.
 
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They only way this has worked for me consistantly is this; talk to the mom and make freinds whith here comment about how good, young, freindly she is. fluf with her. and "notice" the daughter and talk about the daughter with the mom as if she isnt there(wow mom-say mom- your daugter is just as preity as you bla bla, most of the time the girl will be so impressed that you are hitting infrom of her saying shes preity will not make you look afc) .. and then ask the mom what her daughters name is.. if she tell you, that means you have permission to talk to her and get her number..
 
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They only way this has worked for me consistantly is this; talk to the mom and make freinds whith here comment about how good, young, freindly she is. fluf with her. and "notice" the daughter and talk about the daughter with the mom as if she isnt there(wow mom-say mom- your daugter is just as preity as you bla bla, most of the time the girl will be so impressed that you are hitting infrom of her saying shes preity will not make you look afc) .. and then ask the mom what her daughters name is.. if she tell you, that means you have permission to talk to her and get her number..
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Good thinking!

Here is another idea; Wait till the two split,then go up to the mom.

bw;"Excuse me miss,can I speak to you for a second please?"
mom; "Sure."
bw; "Hey I noticed that you and your daughter were together so I didn't want to interupt your free time. I just thought she is pretty and wouldn't mind introducing myself to her,do you mind if I do?"
mom; "Go ahead."
bw; "Thanks."

I have found out first hand that as long as you are honest and respectful that the other person parents will always value you because of that.
 
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I Like Your Thinking.

cyp6, blinkwatt I like you ideas. I think I'm gonna try this out the next time I'm at the mall.

Good idea going for the mother, or mom's permission first. I think I can pull it off making it a good DHV.

I think I'm gonna hit the mall this saturday. I'll definately let you know how it goes.

Thanks for ideas. Keep them coming.

-E.Nigma
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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When dealing with mother/daughter sets, i think its best to greet and introduce yourself to the both of them, engage both of them into a conversation about something u all have in common, slowly direct the conversation more towards the daughter, says it been nice talking to both of u but have to leave, ask for the number and check out.

or just greet both of em and talk to the daughter like shes by herself, get the number and say by to both of em and jet
 
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Yeah, a lot of moms are trying to hook their daughters up anyways...just don't go up to her dad lol.
 
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