"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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most women never initiate. Is this a cultural thing?

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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the way women only initiate is through eye contact and smilling thats as far as it goes or putting themselves so close to you making it obvious.

I agree. Women are so subtle that often they think that they are initiating with just eye contact and smiling. Many men don't realize when they're being "approached."

For example, a girl at school who likes me and wanted to go to a school dance asks two guys near me (one married, one obese) if they are going to the dance, then she turns to me and asks if I'm going. She's trying to play it off like she is taking some sort of survey, but this is really ******** for "I want to go to the dance with you." In a woman's mind, this scenario would qualify as an "approach" but most men would not even notice what was really happening.
 

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Yes, it's cultural. Everything is cultural/societal.

Indians like arranged marriages where everything is cut dried and paid for before the couple even meet. And they don't mess around beforehand either.

It isn't so much that older women are more desperate, that's a bit daft. Older women have a clue about reality and their interests, so they pursue it. They fend for themselves in the meat market. Younger women don't understand the nature of their position, and mostly they don't need to; i'm afraid if you hadn't noticed, most young women are quite vacuous and life philosophy is not their strong point. In other words, unsurprisingly, it takes age to make a genuinely mature woman.

Of course this is well and good for pick up artists, who if they are worth their salt, should find a strong woman intoxicating - rather than as some suggest, feeling intimidated. The fact of the matter is, the majority of older women who are on the prowl are damaged goods, and beyond occasional enjoyable liasons should become involved with at your severe peril.

Good women tend to be married off beforehand. Cliche but true. If they're older and on the singles scene, they're either screwed up and no good to anyone, repressed widowers, adulterers or incable of holding down a relationship. Or horror of horrors, looking for a husband. None of which bothers you or slows you down, right. Right?
 
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