Most overrated things about dating and women

[CornbreadFed]

1). First time sex/One night stands- This one might not be for everyone, but I have a large picky one down there and I need “The Fit”. It usually takes a few sessions with the girl for my penis to adapt to her woman part, so I’ve never had great first time sex. Plus, it is usually out of the spur of the moment with lots of alcohol involved.

2). Large Boobs- Large boobs look better with curiosity in your head than seeing them bare naked in your face. At the end of the day they are boobies and I prefer medium to small ones over the large ones guys drool over.

3). Dating while broke- I have been this guy before and it was stressful constantly worrying about your bank account while talking to women. It seemed liked every date had to be played like a chess match and I had to emulate the main character from Death Note with backup plans for backup plans. Last, your options were limited because there were women that wouldn’t date broke men and had a sixth sense for it. At the end of the day, it is much better to just have money and choose your dates wisely.

4). Latina & Middle Eastern Women- Hahahaha, I bet some of y’all are foaming out of the mouth by now. Yes, these women have a fiery exotic look that makes your wee wee tingle and the food is better than bland American/Western European food. However, they tend to have terrible personalities and be below average in bed from my personal experience.

5). White Women- Overall, white women are fine and I have had a lot of great experiences with them. The issue is that most men will sacrifice their standards and available options to exclusively date white women. Sorry, but White women are not worth dating 2-3 points below your smv and turning down other options for.

6). Cooking Skills- I cook for myself, so I prefer to be the one in charge of cooking over the girl that I am dating. Furthermore, I believe men are naturally better cooks than females…fight me! Last, being a great cook is a good way to turn your woman on and keep her in her feminine mindset. Regardless, I am not going deal with eating crappy food to be alpha or whatever lol.

 

[member160292]

You sure you’re 28?

 

[SW15]

Interesting list. I'll make some comments below.

1). First time sex/One night stands- This one might not be for everyone, but I have a large picky one down there and I need “The Fit”. It usually takes a few sessions with the girl for my penis to adapt to her woman part, so I’ve never had great first time sex. Plus, it is usually out of the spur of the moment with lots of alcohol involved.

This is one of your best points of the 6. I'd agree this is overrated. First time sex with a new partner can be challenging. It's usually not the best quality sex, if it is rushed.

Same night sex from a bar approach or first date sex (regardless of how the first date is arranged) can be considered rushed sex. You're having sex with someone you've only known for a few hours, often late at night/in the early morning hours while tired and under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs. That's not a good recipe for success. Success is often needed for repeated sex. Lower quality sex is a part of why a lot of same night sex incidences end up as one night stands.

The sex 2 hours after a daygame approach while sober scenario is also extremely rare.

2). Large Boobs- Large boobs look better with curiosity in your head than seeing them bare naked in your face. At the end of the day they are boobies and I prefer medium to small ones over the large ones guys drool over.

I'd call this properly rated.

Are the large boobs implants or natural? Is she normal weight or fat?

Some large boobs are great, others aren't that great.

3). Dating while broke- I have been this guy before and it was stressful constantly worrying about your bank account while talking to women. It seemed liked every date had to be played like a chess match and I had to emulate the main character from Death Note with backup plans for backup plans. Last, your options were limited because there were women that wouldn’t date broke men and had a sixth sense for it. At the end of the day, it is much better to just have money and choose your dates wisely.

A guy can date while broke if one or more of the following conditions are applicable....

• Muscular and not of below average height
• 6'0"+ and fit
• Has tattoos and aura of being a deadbeat

If a guy looks rather ordinary and tries to date while broke, it will not go well.

4). Latina & Middle Eastern Women- Hahahaha, I bet some of y’all are foaming out of the mouth by now. Yes, these women have a fiery exotic look that makes your wee wee tingle and the food is better than bland American/Western European food. However, they tend to have terrible personalities and be below average in bed from my personal experience.

I would call these women properly rated.

I would disagree that Latinas & Middle Eastern women have terrible personalities.

There is also a difference between meeting Latinas & Middle Western women in their native countries vs. meeting them in a Western country. Spending too much time in Western culture poisons these women.

I prefer Latinas to Middle Eastern women and most of my interactions with Latinas have occurred in the United States. I am most attracted to White women, but I am also attracted to Latinas. There are a few Middle Eastern ethnicities I find attractive, but not many. I'm not attracted to Black or East/South Asian women.

Latinas who are single after 30 tend to have had at least one child. It's quite rare to meet a childless Latina 30+. The few childless 30+ Latinas I've met were mimicking White women.

5). White Women- Overall, white women are fine and I have had a lot of great experiences with them. The issue is that most men will sacrifice their standards and available options to exclusively date white women. Sorry, but White women are not worth dating 2-3 points below your smv and turning down other options for.

I am a White male living in the United States. As mentioned before, I am most attracted to White women. Additionally, the majority of my approached women have been White women. I also believe it is easier to date within one's own race/ethnicity.

It's worth pointing out that if you're a childless man 30+ and dating similarly aged women, most 30+ childless women will be White women.

There are some non-White men who are really into White women. I've seen this commonly with Indian and Indian-American men. There are also some Black men who are really into White women.

White women are pursued heavily both by their own race and other races/ethnicities.

I disagree that White women are overrated. I would call them properly rated.

6). Cooking Skills- I cook for myself, so I prefer to be the one in charge of cooking over the girl that I am dating. Furthermore, I believe men are naturally better cooks than females…fight me! Last, being a great cook is a good way to turn your woman on and keep her in her feminine mindset. Regardless, I am not going deal with eating crappy food to be alpha or whatever lol.

Female cooking skills are a bit overrated. If a man lives alone/with roommates long enough and doesn't live with a woman, he is likely to learn some cooking skills. He would have less of a need for strong female cooking skills. In addition, a good portion of women today are not that good at cooking either, particularly the careerist women.

This depends on your relationship goals and whether or not you live with a woman.

 

[CornbreadFed]

A guy can date while broke if one or more of the following conditions are applicable....

• Muscular and not of below average height
• 6'0"+ and fit
• Has tattoos and aura of being a deadbeat

If a guy looks rather ordinary and tries to date while broke, it will not go well.

I have zero tattoos haha, but I was temporarily broke not broke broke.

I disagree that White women are overrated. I would call them properly rated.

This one was more pointing towards the brown/black guys that obsess towards white women lol.

I would call these women properly rated.

I would disagree that Latinas & Middle Eastern women have terrible personalities.

I also forgot that most Latinas tend to get fat at a young age or pretty soon in a relationship with them. You have never had to deal with their machismo influences personalities? Most ME women tend to be really bvtchy and money obsessed, so that’s why I have them ranked low personality wise.

 

[SW15]

I have zero tattoos haha, but I was temporarily broke not broke broke.

I see your point of view from being temporarily broke and lacking tattoos. There is a market for men with multiple tattoos, broke and working either McJobs or blue collar jobs, and possibly having a criminal record. These men tend to attract trashy women but they do get laid.

A guy with a lower paying white collar job who is broke isn't going to attract much interest unless he's 6'0"+ and fit or gives off some sort of edgy aura. Most white collar men don't give off a edgy aura.

This one was more pointing towards the brown/black guys that obsess towards white women lol.

You have a good point there.

I also forgot that most Latinas tend to get fat at a young age or pretty soon in a relationship with them. You have never had to deal with their machismo influences personalities? Most ME women tend to be really bvtchy and money obsessed, so that’s why I have them ranked low personality wise.

I have more experience with Latinas than Middle Eastern women.

Latinas do get fat. It happens. The bigger issue with Latinas is getting pregnant in more unstable than average relationships. This is a part of why there is more single motherhood with Latinas and more poverty with Latinas. It is rare than Latinas stay childless later into life. The 30+ never married and childless group of women tends to be mostly college educated White women.

 

[Doctor Europeo]

7) Spinning plates: Is it better than a dry spell? Yes. But for some guys (not all) it gets old after a while. This one doesnt apply to Thrill of the hunt kind of guys.

8) LTR/Marriages: Most of them wont work. Dead bedroom

9) Banging hot 18 year olds: Im just guessing here, last time I was single I couldnt pull younger than 22. My guess is if one could consistently pull hot 18 year olds, it could get old after a while. I might be wrong. This one doesnt apply to Thrill of the hunt kind of guys.

10) Receiving bl0wj0bs/handjobs. This is a personal one. They are better than nothing or fap, yes, but not my endgoal. I mostly skip them.

11) Milfs/Cougars: One of many fantasies when you are a horny teen, yes. Then some of us got to a point where we just didnt get the appeal. But we might circle back when we are older or become single dads.

 

[CornbreadFed]

7) Spinning plates: Is it better than a dry spell? Yes. But for some guys (not all) it gets old after a while. This one doesnt apply to Thrill of the hunt kind of guys.

spinning plates for insurance for flakey women is stupid. Once you start to figure out how to consistently get women, dry spells become less scary.

8) LTR/Marriages: Most of them wont work. Dead bedroom

LTRs and Marriages take work and go beyond initial sexual chemistry and date nights. There’s also very little relationship advice for men too.

9) Banging hot 18 year olds: Im just guessing here, last time I was single I couldnt pull younger than 22. My guess is if one could consistently pull hot 18 year olds, it could get old after a while. I might be wrong. This one doesnt apply to Thrill of the hunt kind of guys.

Understandable, you cannot connect with her maturity level so it seems like you are just fvcking a sex doll or glorified masterbation. If the girl isn’t old enough to buy herself a drink, I’m out. Plus, some girls don’t even hit their peak in looks until their twenties because they need that time outside of their parents/high school to find themselves.

10) Receiving bl0wj0bs/handjobs. This is a personal one. They are better than nothing or fap, yes, but not my endgoal. I mostly skip them.

Agreed, they can be awkward too waiting for her to get tired lol. The best handjobs come from certain women, if you know you know lol.

11) Milfs/Cougars: One of many fantasies when you are a horny teen, yes. Then some of us got to a point where we just didnt get the appeal. But we might circle back when we are older or become single dads.

Disagree, but I have never had sex with one though.

Latinas do get fat. It happens. The bigger issue with Latinas is getting pregnant in more unstable than average relationships. This is a part of why there is more single motherhood with Latinas and more poverty with Latinas. It is rare than Latinas stay childless later into life. The 30+ never married and childless group of women tends to be mostly college educated White women.

My brother started dating this questionably legal Latina that is 18 years old a few months ago. She is already showing obvious signs of weight gain and I will not be surprised if this girl is pregnant by the end of 2023.

 

[devilkingx2]

1). First time sex/One night stands- This one might not be for everyone, but I have a large picky one down there and I need “The Fit”. It usually takes a few sessions with the girl for my penis to adapt to her woman part, so I’ve never had great first time sex. Plus, it is usually out of the spur of the moment with lots of alcohol involved.

I've never understood the desire for one night stands because it's a waste of time and energy. It's like working hard for two weeks and then spending your paycheck in one night.

It's fun for guys who can hookup with hot girls regularly.

3). Dating while broke- I have been this guy before and it was stressful constantly worrying about your bank account while talking to women. It seemed liked every date had to be played like a chess match and I had to emulate the main character from Death Note with backup plans for backup plans. Last, your options were limited because there were women that wouldn’t date broke men and had a sixth sense for it. At the end of the day, it is much better to just have money and choose your dates wisely.

I don't think anybody wants to date while broke on purpose. I have heard some PUAs say that it's actually easier to get laid while broke and all of them say that you don't need money to get girls.

The grass is always greener on the other side. If you were a lawyer you'd wish you had the time and energy to meet girls and if you were a waiter you'd wish banging all your coworkers didn't cost half your paycheck.

Another aspect is that making money is tough, there's tons of broke people and dating is often expensive. A girl who likes to take walks in the park or go to museums is a godsend lol.

4). Latina & Middle Eastern Women- Hahahaha, I bet some of y’all are foaming out of the mouth by now. Yes, these women have a fiery exotic look that makes your wee wee tingle and the food is better than bland American/Western European food. However, they tend to have terrible personalities and be below average in bed from my personal experience.

American latinas usually have a bad attitude and that sucks because I think latinas are the hottest race of women that aren't super exotic and rare/tough to get.

Latina directly from South America are 99% sweet and nice and pleasant. Except the Colombians in my experience.

Middle eastern women are hot, but I rarely do well with them. I don't think they like black guys. conservative girls aren't a good fit for a guy like me anyway.

North African girls (Morroco, Egypt, etc.) Are like Arabs except easier in my experience.

5). White Women- Overall, white women are fine and I have had a lot of great experiences with them. The issue is that most men will sacrifice their standards and available options to exclusively date white women. Sorry, but White women are not worth dating 2-3 points below your smv and turning down other options for.

Agree with this. I never thought white girls were anything special. I do like the novelty of naturally colored hair and eyes and I of course appreciate the beautiful ones. I also like that American white girls are not conservative.

Although I am the kind of black guy who would date a trashy white girl because she's easy lol.

 

[devilkingx2]

I see your point of view from being temporarily broke and lacking tattoos. There is a market for men with multiple tattoos, broke and working either McJobs or blue collar jobs, and possibly having a criminal record. These men tend to attract trashy women but they do get laid.

A guy with a lower paying white collar job who is broke isn't going to attract much interest unless he's 6'0"+ and fit or gives off some sort of edgy aura. Most white collar men don't give off a edgy aura.

It definitely depends on what kind of women you're going for.

Most college students, unemployed women, minimum wage women, etc. Most likely won't have a problem with dating a man that is in the same boat unless she has a rich family or is an HB9 that gets flown out.

The women I've seen that you can't just take out to get coffee, drinks, pizza, ice cream, a walk in the park, a museum, etc. Are women who seem to live their life by spending a man's money or ones that come from daddy's money.

 

[devilkingx2]

7) Spinning plates: Is it better than a dry spell? Yes. But for some guys (not all) it gets old after a while. This one doesnt apply to Thrill of the hunt kind of guys.

The problem with spinning plates is that getting 3 girls is 3x the work of getting one, it's 3x the cost and 3x the drama.

The benefit is that maintaining one relationship can be exponentially more difficult than any amount of plates.
Easy to ignore one plate who's mad at you while you hang out with the other two, much harder to deal with a girlfriend who's mad at you.

8) LTR/Marriages: Most of them wont work. Dead bedroom

I have a theory that dead bedrooms are caused by not screening for women with high sexual interest in you and high sexuality in general.

Below average men can't be picky about women, blue pilled men/beta males would probably think it's misogynistic or shallow to pick a woman based on how horny she is. And those would be the men with dead bedrooms

9) Banging hot 18 year olds: Im just guessing here, last time I was single I couldnt pull younger than 22. My guess is if one could consistently pull hot 18 year olds, it could get old after a while. I might be wrong. This one doesnt apply to Thrill of the hunt kind of guys.

I don't believe in the usual nonsense about being in different places in life, immature young people or grooming an adult, etc.

I think the problem with dating an 18 year old would be that you can't take her to bars and clubs, some hotels won't let her check in if she's below 21, no casinos, etc. So you may be very limited in what you can actually do with her.

11) Milfs/Cougars: One of many fantasies when you are a horny teen, yes. Then some of us got to a point where we just didnt get the appeal. But we might circle back when we are older or become single dads.

At some point you become old enough that women older than you are no longer hotter and more challenging to get.

When you're 18, if you date a 25 year old woman you're either the king of chads or the god of game. She's got 2x your income and is hot enough to have her choice of men.

If you're 30 and date a 40 year old, she's probably less attractive than a 30 year old and less fun. It's harder and more impressive/rewarding to date a 20 year old instead.