"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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most good looking gals have bfs

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u now i seen lately a lot of the girls on campus that are good looking i see em with bfs or other guys. one time i saw a gal in the comp lab was about to talk ot her and didn't ,but then 2 days later saw her hand and hand with another guy-guess her bf, woow i am glad i didn't talk ot her or i might get threatened or azz kicked. lol. most gals out there in life that are good looking have a bf. some guys might think i am competition.
first i don;t want to waste my time on a gal with a bf and talk and flirt with her, but i want to now straight out if she is single-don;t like wasting time. soem girls are very freindly and talktive and flirty at times and even have a bf. what is with that. what happens if u ask a gal out- and hten she has a bf. how can u tell without askin or anything if she has a bf. i personally want to now straight up if she has a bf or not. why waste time talking to a gal with a bf when there are other single gals out there i should be going after. how would her bf feel like if some guy was hittin on her or trying to be freinds with her-some guys hate it-almost like compettion. how can u do this without askin and personally seeing her kiss some guy.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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It really depends on the situation. I can give several example of people i know that got their current wives - when these girls already had BFs! These girls are decent too, not flakey or anything. You also have to keep in mind that alot of times they are in a relationship for convenience while looking for something more fullfilling or better.

They're almost always taken, so you have to get a feel for her current situation and go from there. Just because they leave their current bf for you doesn't mean they'll do it to you too. It's trial and error like anything else until you find someone you really click with it.
 

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Not all girls have boyfriends. But some of the pretty ones don't feel attractive if they're not with a guy at all times, so they have lots of friends to keep up appearances.

So go for it anyway. You might be wrong.
 

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well yea then the guy finds out i stole his gal and come beat me up and all. woow great.
anyways i wouldn;t steal a guys girl anyways that just badddd

Originally posted by tmpgstx
It really depends on the situation. I can give several example of people i know that got their current wives - when these girls already had BFs! These girls are decent too, not flakey or anything. You also have to keep in mind that alot of times they are in a relationship for convenience while looking for something more fullfilling or better.

They're almost always taken, so you have to get a feel for her current situation and go from there. Just because they leave their current bf for you doesn't mean they'll do it to you too. It's trial and error like anything else until you find someone you really click with it.
 

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woow i am glad i didn't talk ot her or i might get threatened or azz kicked.
I think this is a general outlook problem, unless she's got a ring on that finger she's fair game.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by joe45
well yea then the guy finds out i stole his gal and come beat me up and all. woow great.
anyways i wouldn;t steal a guys girl anyways that just badddd
No, it's the girl's decision. If she leaves him for you then it is between them and not you. Even if she doesn't tell him she is fair game. One man has no buisness taking out his anger on another man when it is the girl that is doing all the choosing.
 

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I had the same problem. Most of the good looking girls in my campus had gfs and all that was left was the average girls that weren't good enough. I would see a good looking girl in class, I would do some investigating and find out she was a boyfriend! I would see a good looking girl alone, I planned to make a move than all of a sudden cellphone rings, its her damn boyfriend!

my friend and I in first day of class, 4 hot biatches sitting infront of us, we plan on making a move a few days later in class we hear them talking about their boyfriends and 1 of em is married! this damn campus sucks, lots of pretty girls but all of them are taken!

In highly competitive environments such as this you will need to work twice as hard to get yourself a good looking girlfriend. Not only that but you need to be extra careful in doing your investigations. If you don't you will end up being rejected because they already have a boyfriend and this is always embarrasing.
 

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how did u go about in ur investigating. damn guys have to do all the work around here hey ask her out, find out if bf or not, pay for date.........etc damn gals go it easy

Originally posted by Joe The Homophobe
I had the same problem. Most of the good looking girls in my campus had gfs and all that was left was the average girls that weren't good enough. I would see a good looking girl in class, I would do some investigating and find out she was a boyfriend! I would see a good looking girl alone, I planned to make a move than all of a sudden cellphone rings, its her damn boyfriend!

my friend and I in first day of class, 4 hot biatches sitting infront of us, we plan on making a move a few days later in class we hear them talking about their boyfriends and 1 of em is married! this damn campus sucks, lots of pretty girls but all of them are taken!

In highly competitive environments such as this you will need to work twice as hard to get yourself a good looking girlfriend. Not only that but you need to be extra careful in doing your investigations. If you don't you will end up being rejected because they already have a boyfriend and this is always embarrasing.
 

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Ya most hot girls do have b/f's but u cant let that stop u from making your move on her, most fine girls are insecure so they need a guy around. But most pretty girls are never satisfied with what they got, they are always looking for that bigger better deal so show them that is you.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by alakazam
Better question is why investigate? Go talk to her. *shrug*
Ask people you know in class if they know anything about her, if really interested talk to her friends and ask if the girl you want has a boyfriend, it is simple they either say yes or no. Knowing this will save you embarrasment and rejection and will save your dignity. Better than asking the girl herself if she has one or not, no nervousness when asking her friends. You can even follow her around campus a bit you will probably catch her talking to her bf.
Better question is why investigate? Go talk to her. *shrug*
I know what you mean but this is a special situation you don't understand. I know what joe45 is talking about, I lived it myself. My campus was full of hot girls but later I found out that not only did finding one that didn't have a boyfriend was like finding a needle in a haystack, but they were also high maintenance b|tches (which is what good looking girls are). If my campus was a normal campus I would have done what you said. You have to adapt your tactics to the environment.
 

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Ya this is a very messed up situation but in order to be a real dj u gotta be able to deal with rejection and move on to the next, but hey dont be so quick to give up on her, ask her if she is allowed to have guy friends and i bet she will say yes and then ask her for her # so u can chat, then just show her what yoru all about, but dont talk about her b/f, thats a nono.
 

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Ask people you know in class if they know anything about her, if really interested talk to her friends and ask if the girl you want has a boyfriend, it is simple they either say yes or no. Knowing this will save you embarrasment and rejection and will save your dignity. Better than asking the girl herself if she has one or not, no nervousness when asking her friends.
I think your investigations are holding you way way back. Instead of wasting time talking to everyone except her I think you are best off walking up and just asking the girl out or for her phone number. I mean when you ask a girls friends about her and they say she is single it doesn't guarantee that you are going to not be rejected anyways. At that point the rejection is known by all her friends who told her that you have been asking about her.

You can even follow her around campus a bit you will probably catch her talking to her bf.
or just talking to a guy who actually goes up and talks to her.

Really the best way to find out if the girl is single and/or interested in you is to go up and just ask her to something or her phone number. I adopted a policy during my third year of college where I would only spend a week meeting and building rapport with a girl before I would either ask her out or get at least a phone number. The longer you wait the less desirable you become. I bet that it takes a lot longer than a week to investigate a girl though.

how would her bf feel like if some guy was hittin on her or trying to be freinds with her-some guys hate it-almost like compettion.
dude if you want a hot girl then you deal with this. If you game her right than you can be secure. The truth is that everytime a hot girl goes out she is getting stared at, hit on and asked out. If you cant stomach the fact that other guys are constantly going to hit on your girlfiend when you aren't around than dont date hot girls. It will be a huge headache for you.
 

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Originally posted by belividere
I adopted a policy during my third year of college where I would only spend a week meeting and building rapport with a girl before I would either ask her out or get at least a phone number. The longer you wait the less desirable you become.
Not true, girls may find you more attractive over time, or less attractive over time, depends on the person. If you go after multiple girls at the same time, there's no need to rush into "the close" after just a week (well not with all of them).

Anyways, if you can charm a girl, it doesn't matter if they have a boyfriend or not, they'll be interested in you nonetheless, and might want to get with you after they break up with their boyfriend.

Give it a shot, the worst that will happen is that they'll say I have a boyfriend.

Plus, most guys are too scared to ask out a girl. Just asking them out will provoke interest in them.
 

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Girls can be needy critters when it comes to men. It's an esteem issue. There were girls on campus back when I was in college that were so hot that NO ONE had the balls to ask them out, so consequently they would go out with ANY dude who had balls enough.

It doesn't mean that she's madly in love with him. ****, if you catch her alone, ask her. She'll tell you if she has a boyfriend in no uncertain terms. (none of this "kinda seeing someone" bullsh!t ;) )
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by squirrels
Girls can be needy critters when it comes to men. It's an esteem issue. There were girls on campus back when I was in college that were so hot that NO ONE had the balls to ask them out, so consequently they would go out with ANY dude who had balls enough.

It doesn't mean that she's madly in love with him. ****, if you catch her alone, ask her. She'll tell you if she has a boyfriend in no uncertain terms. (none of this "kinda seeing someone" bullsh!t ;) )
i agree, i've met many hot girls in the past who didnt have a bf...either that they were extremely talented in keeping him a secret.
 

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Not true, girls may find you more attractive over time, or less attractive over time, depends on the person. If you go after multiple girls at the same time, there's no need to rush into "the close" after just a week (well not with all of them).
lynch I agree I didn't word that as well as I could have. What I wanted to get across was that I adopted a policy of letting my intentions be known as soon as possible. From my experience if a girl shows high interest in you from the get go then you need to capitalize or she will very quickly loss it and move on. By expressing interest up front then the girl knows that you are interested in something other than a friendship. If she has a boyfriend then oh well at least I know where I stand. I will still talk to a girl if she does but at least at that point all I have spent was a few conversations. And yes definetly approach more than one chick at a time. i think we are trying to say the same thing here.
 

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well put!

Originally posted by alphawolfx
Not all girls have boyfriends. But some of the pretty ones don't feel attractive if they're not with a guy at all times, so they have lots of friends to keep up appearances.

So go for it anyway. You might be wrong.

I totally understand where alphawolfx is coming from. Some females (AND MALES TOO) don't feel secure without having somebody. I always figure that as long they ain't married or aren't the girl of a friend, then they are open game..Its a dog eat dog world man..If you like her, but she has a boyfriend, still try her out..you never know she might leave him for you..
 

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Re: well put!

well yea then get beat up that is just great

Originally posted by Freeman
I totally understand where alphawolfx is coming from. Some females (AND MALES TOO) don't feel secure without having somebody. I always figure that as long they ain't married or aren't the girl of a friend, then they are open game..Its a dog eat dog world man..If you like her, but she has a boyfriend, still try her out..you never know she might leave him for you..
 

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if she's not married I consider her available, so what if she see's other guys, just because she has a boyfriend doesnt mean they are engaged.

a guy should also have several girlfriends and never get attached
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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