"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Darth

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I know I said I wouldn't come back, but it's only decent to let you know what I've gleaned from the real world after how much I've been helped by this site over the past ten years. I have only 4 points:

1. Some women (like bat**** crazy HB10s) love drama. When that happens, you have to give it to them-in a very stable way. For instance, let's say that it's long-distance and you send her a nice email every Sunday. One Sunday she doesn't respond. Then, you have to send a follow-up email asking what's wrong, did anything happen, and then she'll do something intended to cause more drama, and you have to just be the stable foil to let her continue to play off of you. If you don't like this or find this cute, you shouldn't be in a relationship with her.
2. Most women in my generation (Millennials) with looks 9/10 or 10/10 are feminists and narcissists. They would never last in a marriage with me-so why bother? They're just completely brainwashed by society. For most guys interested in marriage who want a traditional, "sexist" marriage, I would aim at 8s and 7s.
3. If a woman is attracted to you, even your mistakes work in your favor.
4. Attraction is about being, not doing. 100% of your effort should go into character and ideology. I am extremely ignorant of game itself, yet I have women throwing themselves at me because I internalized the principles of this site. It just goes back to the old adage: Do you give a man a fish, or do you teach him how to fish?

Anyway, thanks for the help, guys. I've got a great girlfriend (practically a wife now) and about to get a second one. Without this site, it wouldn't be possible. All the good stuff is there-but you have to dig for it.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Desdinova

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Darth said:
2. Most women in my generation (Millennials) with looks 9/10 or 10/10 are feminists and narcissists. They would never last in a marriage with me-so why bother? They're just completely brainwashed by society. For most guys interested in marriage who want a traditional, "sexist" marriage, I would aim at 8s and 7s.
I'm going to add to this... 9s and 10s who are still very young in their dating lives can also be LTR material. You have to catch and keep them at a young age though which is difficult because of the "party" phase that most women go through.

The longest lasting relationships I've seen are the ones where the couples have been together since high school. If the woman you've begun dating isn't younger than 23, her mileage is likely too high.

Here in North America, we have laws against dating women who are under 18. This is extremely unfortunate with regards to finding a low-mileage woman to keep around as a life-long companion. Lots of women have already had a fair amount of sex by the time they're 18, some beginning as young as age 11.

I firmly believe that low-mileage is the key to finding a good, loyal companion. As a woman gets older, the less likely she's going to get emotionally attached to a man because she becomes conditioned to getting any man who throws himself at her. She learns the power of her vagina.

When you're the first companion a woman's ever had, she knows none of this. She will become reliant on her man for leadership and strength because she knows nothing else, nor does she need it.
 

om1xr

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4 is spot on but other points are not true for everyone especially the 9s+ not being worthy for ltr because personally I see younger girls from 18 to 24 because I'm still young and there are many girls who will be awesome to be in a ltr but I'm not looking for that at the moment.

other point about attraction is true too but even attraction can fade by you if you are just projecting and faking your character and let's face it a lot of guys are that way but if you are authentic and get to the point and level of the game when you realize that there is no game then small or even big mistakes won't kill attraction because you are still who you are and you own these mistakes and don't give a fvck about what others think of them.

and who the fvck still using email to contact especially for girls lol
 
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