More Matrix stuff ...

[WaterTiger]

... from Yahoo!, notice an author who wrote some book on "Troubleshooting Your Mate" chimes in.

If you have trouble and you have to "fix" your mate, you have problems.

Notice all the matrix replies and social contrivances Rollo has pointed out. Man, the brainwashing that goes on is incredible!

http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/s...vdWxkLWktbGV0LWhpbS1zb3ctaGlzLW9hdHMEenoDYWJj

Soooooo! What should the woman do with the boyfriend who wants to "sow his wild oats"???? Refuse to let him go? Let him go and wait by the phone? Break up with him and consider him a lost cause? What's your take on it???

 

[Chez]

Penny, many men have been trained to feel guilty for doing something they like without involving their partner.I've sen it time and time again.
The woman's main complaint is that they want "me" time.
They want ATTENTION from their partner.
And if the TV is getting more ATTENTION than the little woman, there's going to be a problem up in here....


That's how it is for most men in Marriages/LTRs.

They key is to have balance.
She should have stuff to do without him. And so he shoudl be better able to enjoy his alone "me" time without apprehension or guilt.
And they should have stuff to do together, without thie kids.
And they should have stuff together as a family.
And each parent should take each child alone with them and do something just with them alone.
This has to be done pretty much throught each month.
You have to make sure you are stauying connected to your partner, and to your kids.
The "me" time , alone or with your partner, and with your kids is extremely important.
In addition, you have to factor in getting together with buddies for him, and girlfriens for her.
So each partner has adult interaction , support, and bonds outside of the marriage/ltr itself.

I tell you what is wrong, ot's NOT making time for yourself, and making sure you have the intimacy bond strong and sure.
Always saying, "Oh we just dont have neough time, and with the klids...you know how it is these days. There's just not enough time."
No, there is ALWAYS enough time.
What I see lacking is the motivation, the will, and the desire to make the marriage a happy one, and the desire to really give the kids really sound, good role models to emulate.
"Look at dad. He's alway working out and eating healthy. He's always on time. He never loses his temper. He's always reading or studying something interesting..but he always has enough time and attention for us."

Same thing with the woman...she should also be trying to learn new things, be a little bit adventurous, and be a good role model for both the male and female children.
The little boy learns to see and discern what is a good woman, with Class, grace, character, and spunky attitude. The female learns what is a quality man...one who is calm, and under control.Always improving, learning new things. Who makes time for himself, and has a back bone. etc.

If you don;t make time for yourself and yor marriage , you become POOR Role Models for your children.

They begin to believe that they should give up their lives and identity and pursuits for them.
Yet, the parents make a mistake in sacrificing the very things that make them special and unique. The children will suffer from a lack of a good role model because of these things.

This is some very good views interceptor , something that all families should know and employ....

 

[Last Man Standing]

I would like to know why, yes

This is an area i am uncertain where your coming from, so enlighten me

It is done to destroy the family and make the "state" the provider and now the "state" can indoctrinate the children with their own "education" - because the father and thus discipline is no longer in the household! It also corrupts society who will accept corrupt leaders and thus makes it easier for corrupt leaders to control the masses and take over the society without a fight from the men. In time, you have the breakdown of society and will have a fascist form of government - the "state" is your family and the fascist rulers are your father!!!!!!

 

[jonwon]

It is done to destroy the family and make the "state" the provider and now the "state" can indoctrinate the children with their own "education" - because the father and thus discipline is no longer in the household! It also corrupts society who will accept corrupt leaders and thus makes it easier for corrupt leaders to control the masses and take over the society without a fight from the men. In time, you have the breakdown of society and will have a fascist form of government - the "state" is your family and the fascist rulers are your father!!!!!!

I am aware of this Last man but i was expecting a little bit more, something to get my teeth into, you have to imagine, i too share a similer view, but still it would be nice to see your sources, it is clear something is not right, now if it is the agenda of the government to father the kids, which tbh about seems to point that way.

I would like to know your sources of information.

Thanks.

Otherwise this topic is open to debate, and tbh about it i am not sure which is the true situation, now if i had a very good example backed up by facts i would be more then happy to see it.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Jonwon - it is called reality, of which I have been observing for 30 years! Why should I go to a "source", meaning someone else, when I know the reality?? Why can't I be that source? What gives others more knmowkedge than me if I am in sync with the rhythm of truth?

Have you noticed that we can no longer "discipline" our children anymore? What happens when there is no father in the house hold - there is no discipline! And when fathers are in the household they still are limited in disciplining their child and many men in the household are not the father of that child so they don't have the power to discipline someone else's child, only the weak mother does or the absent father!

So what happens to these undisciplined children?? Yep, you got it! Many end up in prison - disciplined by the state!!! ---- All by design!! Society becomes corrupted!

 

[Mr.Positive]

This is some very good views interceptor , something that all families should know and employ....

Great stuff Interceptor, and what I like the most about your views, is solution.

The solution is simple really, we need to go back to the basics and raise our children properly, in households where both men and women are of equal responsibilty, each using both masculine and feminine influences to teach and guide our youth into become respectable men and women.

Threads like this are an eye-opener. When I read stuff like this, (and I agree with it), it makes me think to myself...how, can I, become a better man and overcome these obstacles and make a positive difference in the direction our society should be heading?