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Moral Dilemma of Girl with BF

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Well, i've been gaming this HB8.5 for a while now, we went on a few dates (including my prom), and I was all set to close the deal...when I found out yesterday that she has a boyfriend again. It's her boyfriend from last summer, and they have some serious history and he seems like a genuinely good guy. (Not AFC though)

The thing is that I KNOW I would still be able to lay her, but I'm thinking I want relationship out of her, and I just cant get myself to make her cheat to start it.

She's never said anything about him, last week when I brought her to my prom she was grinding me real hard and when slow songs came on she kept waiting for the kiss. (I never got to kiss her because we got into a disagreement halfway though and I just stopped talking to her) She still hasnt told me, the only reason I know is from her new Facebook.

Now I've been throwing the idea of stealing her back and forth all day and I just can't do it, so I was thinking of just freezing her out until the next time I see her and then confronting her about it. I know this goes against the rules here, but I need to know for sure so I can drop her and move on to other girls. Is this a good idea? Does anyone else have a better plan? Should I just move on without confronting her about it? Thanks for the help guys
 

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DevanE said:
What was the disagrrement ABOUT...? Chances are that she wanted you to make a move BUT you bit**ed out. Plus WHY the hell would you WANT a women to cheat on someone else...? Come-on dude stop being dispicible and low. If she went back to him let her go why the hell are you purposly TRYING to interfere in life. Let her be and move the fuk on.

The reason she didn't tell you about her BF is because she didn't want to...who the fuk are you anyway for she has to TELL you anything...? You get what I'm saying. Stop obssessing over this chick and cut her out of your life. Keep another thing in mind that you DON'T need to confront her on anything ACT like nothing happened because when you confront someone it confuses them especially when they are NOT expecting it and makes situations worst.
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Sorry, you misunderstood me and I left out somethings too. We made up after that argument and we have been good since then, back to regular. I don't want her to cheat, that's where the moral dilemma comes in, because I don't believe in stealing gf's like that.
 
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Touchout said:
Sorry, you misunderstood me and I left out somethings too. We made up after that argument and we have been good since then, back to regular. I don't want her to cheat, that's where the moral dilemma comes in, because I don't believe in stealing gf's like that.
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Ditch her. Do you really want a someone who changes their mind on who they date so much?

How can she be hot for you one moment and then go back to her EX-boyfriend? It's not worth it. Find a girl with principles. She had you guys on the side and was toying with both of you.

And trust me, if you do win her over, unless you're super confident in yourself or you don't give a **** about her... you'll start worrying about another guy doing it to you... cause you'll know how easy it was to steal her in the first place.
 
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