"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Monkeybranching isn't really a redflag

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Hello everyone.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that, no matter how healthy or unhealthy, every woman will do it.
I'm talking about monkeybranching.

Not in a general sense, but what do I mean specifically?

If a woman is already in a relationship with a man, but at some point begins to develop feelings for another man, she has two options:
1) She'll start acting like a b1tch and letting her current man know she wants a "break" and start acting available to the other man she's having feelings for.
2) If the other man doesn't reciprocate, or if she "try him" but realizes her old man was better, then she goes back to her old man, making up lots of promises to make him feel good.


In this case, what's the key?
A woman will never leave/end a current relationship for another man, even if she have feelings for him.
It's right there.

Whether the woman is healthy, unhealthy, toxic, or good, it doesn't matter. No woman in a relationship wants to stay single and then try to pursue the other man, but rather, they'll all try the "break." thing.
If you think about it, it's a bit like Amazon returns. You try it, and if you don't like it, you send it back.

I'd like to hear your opinion, but we all agree here that we men are the only ones who, for the most part, manage to do this: stay alone. We don't really care about being alone and single. Apparently, women do, because of the social stigma.

If you find a woman who has managed to stay single and not monkeybranch, then that's a clear sign that she's a strong woman.

Do you still consider monkeybranching a red flag?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hi Tesla,
"If you think about it, it's a bit like Amazon returns. You try it, and if you don't like it, you send it back."An amusing analogy.
 

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If you find a woman who has managed to stay single and not monkeybranch, then that's a clear sign that she's a strong woman.

100% disagree. There are plenty of women nowadays who are perpetually "single" but still constantly "dating" and sleeping with men in a constant rotation. These women are as likely to be a problem, though their behavior is far less morally repugnant than the monkeybranchers. I think monkeybranching is absolutely sickening, narcissistic behavior that completely lacks any human empathy.
 

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100% disagree. There are plenty of women nowadays who are perpetually "single" but still constantly "dating" and sleeping with men in a constant rotation. These women are as likely to be a problem, though their behavior is far less morally repugnant than the monkeybranchers. I think monkeybranching is absolutely sickening, narcissistic behavior that completely lacks any human empathy.
True

But still I gotta say that monkeybranching is a modern dating phenomenon, and both genders are guilty of doing it.

You date a woman, 6 months later she starts acting up ,meanwhile you see the writing on the wall and explore new options while the previous woman is still....talking to you.
 

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Most women have back-up boyfriends in case things don’t work out with a “bf” or husband. That likely is the case for the women who post here also.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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We men blast our kneecaps out with sawed off shotguns, by failing to have back-up chicks of our own
Many men have nervous breakdowns after being womanless for a day.
 

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Most women have back-up boyfriends in case things don’t work out with a “bf” or husband. That likely is the case for the women who post here also.
Highscore theory?
 

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A woman will never leave/end a current relationship for another man, even if she have feelings for him.
I don't know if I misunderstand what you're saying, but I 100% disagree with this statement. Women initiate most divorces, and probably breakups too. Sometimes because she has met someone she likes better, or is exciting her for whatever reason.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Never heard of it. This is how most women are. Even the women here have had man after man.
Created by a former Mod. Its on the Hall of Excellence

 

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Created by a former Mod. Its on the Hall of Excellence

I see. Hence JBF and why I am not fond of the Revenge of the Silver Fox Dream.
 

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I don't know if I misunderstand what you're saying, but I 100% disagree with this statement. Women initiate most divorces, and probably breakups too. Sometimes because she has met someone she likes better, or it's exciting her for whatever reason.
Yes, that's absolutely true.
In fact, I expressed myself poorly.

What I'm trying to say is that women will "initiate" divorces or cause "chaos" in their relationships, but I've never experienced women who currently "end" the relationship, spend a period of singleness, and then move on to a new man.
Either it all happens while they're in the relationship, or they don't take the risk of staying single and then being rejected by the man they're attracted to.
What do you think?
 

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What I'm trying to say is that women will "initiate" divorces or cause "chaos" in their relationships, but I've never experienced women who currently "end" the relationship, spend a period of singleness, and then move on to a new man.
Either it all happens while they're in the relationship, or they don't take the risk of staying single and then being rejected by the man they're attracted to.
That makes more sense. Although women don't usually have to endure long periods of singleness, since there are always men out there who will snap them up if they become available. Usually they can find a new guy quicker than the man can find a new girl. But the man has the advantage of being the more proactive one, if he knows what he's doing. Women usually take a more passive role in courting, and pick from the guys who approach them.

That's more the way it was when I was younger though, maybe it's not that way anymore. The younger generations seem to have a lot of hang ups surrounding dating.
 
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