Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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It's not a failure at all, not sure where you're getting that idea. I'm referring to the nature of women who bore easily, a woman like this can never be satisfied. No man will ever be good enough to some of these women. Women need to learn to understand that interest levels will not always be consistently on the up-and-up. It is unrealistic.

Of course, they were likely spoiled in their upbringing, ie - their parents bought them a car for their sweet 16.
Could be the opposite, too. Could be that their home life and upbringing was so awful that they refuse anything other than perfection and happiness from their romantic relationships.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Could be the opposite, too. Could be that their home life and upbringing was so awful that they refuse anything other than perfection and happiness from their romantic relationships.
Well, that's just the case of going one extreme to the next.
 

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Well, that's just the case of going one extreme to the next.
Yessir, two different varieties of the same flavor of F*CKED UP lol.
 

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Well, there's always pornz!:p
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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You're missing the point.. Women leave because they have low interest. That's it. There's nothing else. Women in love do not leave. They cannot leave. It's contradiction.

Men need to own up to this. She left you because she fell out of love with you. She lost respect for you somewhere along the line.
 

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Monkey Branching:
When a girl already has a boyfriend but she gives her number to guys that she meets and flirts as if she were single. She's basically branching off from her boyfriend and establishing backups.

It is one of the most biggest disrespectful things a women can do to anyone. Why is this so acceptable in today's society?
Come on bro, think we have said is 1001 times on here but lets repeat.

Women do not care about you. They care about what you can DO for them. You guys keep equating a woman's actions with her supposed "love" for you. Her actions equate with her agenda. Her love equates with her agenda. Her words equate with her agenda. If you fill that agenda, she will keep coming back. If you don't, she will hand numbers out left and right.

"One of the most disrespectful things a woman can do to anyone?" If you truly think this way, you have little life experience and you only think this way because you are making it personal. Don't ever think its personal with a woman.

"But she should love me for me!" Yeah right.
 

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You're missing the point.. Women leave because they have low interest. That's it. There's nothing else. Women in love do not leave. They cannot leave. It's contradiction.

Men need to own up to this. She left you because she fell out of love with you. She lost respect for you somewhere along the line.


Idk man... It's exhausting watching her interest level like a paranoid hawk. lol. There's always ninja orbiters circling the bait like sharks when her interest level dips. I would rather dgaf and focus on living my life for ME. You can't keep her chained to the kitchen sink, it's true. If she feels the urge to jump to another branch, let her. F' it.

Once she's jumped and gone, I'll be still be there with full responsibility of myself and my life's direction.

The ship sails forward with or without plate(s).
 

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You're missing the point.. Women leave because they have low interest. That's it. There's nothing else. Women in love do not leave. They cannot leave. It's contradiction.

Men need to own up to this. She left you because she fell out of love with you. She lost respect for you somewhere along the line.
You're foolish to think that at least some of this is her own doing. Her own personality issues or whatever hair she has up her ass. A man could do whatever...and still, she wouldn't be satisfied.

Let's just agree to disagree. Opinions are like *******s, everybody has one

[quote[ It's exhausting watching her interest level like a paranoid hawk. [/quote]

Yep....and who needs that kind of aggravation, right?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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You're foolish to think that at least some of this is her own doing. Her own personality issues or whatever hair she has up her ass. A man could do whatever...and still, she wouldn't be satisfied.

Let's just agree to disagree. Opinions are like *******s, everybody has one
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Opinion is irrelevant. I know you want this to be some flaw in the woman but it's not. Women do not leave men they are in love with. Very simple concept. "Branch swinging" is a rationalization for men not being able to keep a woman in love.
 

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"Branch swinging" is a rationalization for men not being able to keep a woman in love.
Agree. Would only add, the honest ones will just dump your a$s and move on, whilst the others will indeed branch swing.
 

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When she has a personality that makes her impulsive there is nothing you can do to keep her loyal. What are you gonna do? Chain her to the Kitchen sink?

There is a difference between why a Woman would Monkey branch depending on her body clock function and why She would monkey branch if she had a screwed up personality from when Daddy Abandoned her.

The responsibility is still on you. Why are you dating these types of women?
 

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It's not a failure at all, not sure where you're getting that idea. I'm referring to the nature of women who bore easily, a woman like this can never be satisfied. No man will ever be good enough to some of these women. Women need to learn to understand that interest levels will not always be consistently on the up-and-up. It is unrealistic.

Of course, they were likely spoiled in their upbringing, ie - their parents bought them a car for their sweet 16.
What does thier parents buying them a car have to do with anything?



I knew of this guy, married to his wife for 20 years, his friends considered him pretty good to his wife. Was completely loyal, romantic, etc. Then he comes up to packed bags and she's outta there because she's too weak-willed to keep the marriage together.
I hate stories like this. My relationships look like rosey fantasies too to all my friends. You have no idea of the inner dynamics of their relationship. Women don't just leave for no reason.



I made this response because there seems to be this trend here that women are these evil creatures who wrong men for pleasure. Many relationships fizzle out because the man, designated leader of relationships, stops being himself and becomes complacent. His passion fizzles out. He doesn't work as hard pursuing goals. He becomes boring. He falls into routine. In other words the man is no longer the man she fell in love with and thus she is no longer attracted. There is no such thing as unconditional love, by the very virtue of you having to meet conditions to be considered in love. Women branch swing when the relationship isn't successful and she is presented with a better option. It's how any market system works. If you not being the best option to a woman is one of the most disrespectful things ever done to you you still have a lot of living to do.


Become the best you possibly can. Always be actively improving. Never get complacent.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Would you say it's on both party's parts? Maybe they don't communicate with each other needs? Maybe she doesn't talk about her needs? (His needs?)

One person cannot shoulder the responsibility Communication is big here. He needs to be a good listener.
 
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Would you say it's on both party's parts? Maybe they don't communicate with each other needs? Maybe she doesn't talk about her needs? (His needs?)

One person cannot shoulder the responsibility Communication is big here.
Of course, it takes two to tango. I am not absolving women of agency. My point is that it is that man's responsibility to protect himself. He does this by understanding how relationships work, putting himself in the best position to have be successful and constantly reminding himself that he is the pilot of the ship and whether it crashes or sails is ultimately up to him.

  • Only become exclusive when we believe it is the best option presented
  • Date someone with similar values
  • Put your best foot forward and try your best to keep it
  • Set high expectations for your partner
We should always be looking for the next branch as well. I don't about you but there have been times I've dated someone when I was at one level, continued improved and became another level and dropped that chick for a better option. Its simply the operation of the market.

You see it all the time with athletes who leave their longtime girlfriends after being drafted.
 
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Of course, it takes two to tango. I am not absolving women of agency. My point is that it is that man's responsibility to protect himself. He does this by understanding how relationships work, putting himself in the best position to have one successful and constantly remind himself that his is the pilot of the ship and whether it crashes or sails is ultimately up to him.

  • Only become exclusive when we believe it is the best option presented
  • Date someone with similar values
  • Put your best foot forward and try your best to keep it
  • Set high expectations for your partner
We should always be looking for the next branch as well. I don't about you but there have been times I've dated someone when I was at one level, continued improved and became another level and dropped that chick for a better option. Its simply the operation of the market.
I think I posted some time ago, a woman who wrote an article...Time magazine that explained "Why I'm not marriage material"

She got married at 20, divorced at 30...she said her and her husband were two completely different people after 10 years. It had nothing to do with him, there is nothing he could have done to save it. She just decided that her goals and objectives were far more different from his and has resolved remaining an independent woman for the rest of her years as a 40-something corporate woman.

You see it all the time with athletes who leave their longtime girlfriends after being drafted.
I recall this WWF(E? now) Reality show where candidates wanted to be a wrestler. It was down to the final 2, and one guy impressed even Vince McMahahon. He was a husband with a new born and a wife. They explained to him before moving forward that this WILL be a lonely life and you'll be on the road for a very long time.

He gave up his dream of being a WWE wrestler to be with his family. I have to say, I admired him. Kind of sad at the same time he gave that up....but that was a hell of a sacrifice. :)
 

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He gave up his dream of being a WWE wrestler to be with his family. I have to say, I admired him. Kind of sad at the same time he gave that up....but that was a hell of a sacrifice. :)
Yeah its the WWE now. World Wrestling Entertainment. My analysis was a cold look at the dating market based in dynamics. There are variables like loyalty, character and etc. that lead to such selfless acts like this. Sad they tend to go unappreciated. The way the cookie crumbles.
 
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We should always be looking for the next branch as well... Its simply the operation of the market.
True... both genders evaluate present sexual market value and evaluate investment in relations over time.

There was talk about interest level declining above, now, it can be discussed that monkey branching by either gender is that effort to "correct" or get relational needs met once again. Especially, if intimacy, communication, and a connection in chemistry has gone astray.

Temptation and forbidden fruit in the garden of Eden is hard to say no to.
(hint: see infinite options, via social media, exes, orbiters, OLD, frequency of cold approaches). :p

We don't stay in relationships that continually make us unhappy, or not happy enough.
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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