"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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, ... my no jealousy stand. I'd disagree with her. I never asked, just did and lead. Etc... Her whole life was filled with chodes that kissed her dumper. Not me.
That's a Major attraction point "No jealousy." This, I've found, makes her burningly Resent! all those chodes who are soooo sensitive and go through her phone to find out who else she's fvcking/dating. If you remain unjealous, I mean, to the point where, she has to be flaunting her promiscuity in your face for you to start getting a little put off by her finally. That's how far a woman must push the jealousy card with me in order for me to say, "Hmm, I just don't know if I want to be with her anymore." "She's obviously trying to get my attention." Then I start seeking other po0n when it gets to overt flaunting of her promiscuity.

The Don Juan talk. I consider myself a Don Juan, as Jacob describes. I consider myself the best lover a woman could ever have, sexually. Now, as far as buying sh!t and being her friend and all that, I'm sure other guys can do that much better than me to make her feel "special."

I rather like the Don Juan portrayed in Don Juan by Johnny Depp, but it all boils down to 2 kinds of guys: guys who are getting sex and guys who aren't. Women smell sex on a man. They have finely attuned sniffers for that. George Clooney has obviously been getting under a lot of dresses for the greater majority of his life. It shows, so women gravitate towards that. They want to put their gyne on his face, because so many other gynes have been there.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Really? lol So any guy can just act like a d!ck and get pvssy? I highly doubt that.

It takes skill, and technique to be that don juan and that's where the staring into their eyes, kino, push pull etc. come into play. Not money or fame. Hell I no homeless guys that are these true "don juan's" that I mention above and they game females that fall for them and buy them things, give them money and even shelter.

Then these guys leave the girl to journey on and the female are left there wondering when he'll return. I know, because I'm one of these "Titanic" Don Juan's lol.

And as far as being able to keep a woman, again to me that no longer is "don juan", For a don juan lay's with many women, and leaves a wake of broken hearts behind him, what the OP and many advocate on getting wealthy and high status is more like how to be a husband material, yet we know that no matter how rich, famous or good looking you are a woman or wife still strays, because there's that real "don juan" that is so captivating that she feels compelled to know and love this interesting human being, that may not be rich with material possesions, but because he has this spirit that knows how to connect with her spirit....
No, it doesn't take much skill to be a manipulative douche bag. What you're describing is a bad boy or jerk - who's really just an insecure *****. They couldn't get any women before, so they resort to these tactics to bed women. They still can't keep any of them. Most of them are acting out of bitterness and resentment - not a result of having any game. "Wah... No woman likes me because I suck at life... I better act like a jerk and just use them". They're still insecure. They won't let themselves get too close to anyone out of FEAR.

What a lot of these people you describe do is, show interest, act charming and genuine - then back away. This leaves the girl confused, and wondering what she did wrong, so she comes to him. They act like they're still interested and give the bare minimum - to keep the other person interested in them. They also provide many excuses for how they're acting, which gets the girl to sympathize with them. Then, they make it seem like its the girls fault. And on from there. The intent is to dangle the potential, maintain the control, and keep the girl confused and pining for them - while coniving anything they can out of them. The girl's interest remains high throughout all of this; she becomes his doormat; and they do this with many women at the same time. This isn't difficult. They're users and players. They don't care, or allow themselves to get close to anyone. Bait and switch is a commonly used tactic.

These people don't come off as being jerks, of course. They're smooth talkers, and don't treat the women like garbage, or anything like that. Most of them act sweet, which gets the girl to fall for them faster. But, behind the charade is a manipulative jerk. They just can't see it - which is the point.

Not a lot of decent, self-assured people are interested in this. In case you haven't noticed - a lot of the people here are desperate and lonely. Bedding and using a bunch of women isn't going to change this. They just want to know how to get the girl they want.

Having game is a lot different than being a jerk. A lot of these techniques can be used to attract and keep the women you want. Many guys come from lack of experience. They don't know how to get women, period. These techniques help with that. It also helps for them to become a better person in general - which also attracts women. So, they become successful in all walks of life without being douche bags. They are also more happy than if they were jerks.
 

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I would add that there's something to be said for developing good social skills and DJ skills that can help support you on your way to accomplishing your personal goals of wealth, fame, etc. It's also a rather nice feature of this life that there is no chicken-and-egg dilemma, whether you're working on your passions/career or your social life, you should be able to feed one into the other.
 

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lol.... looks and money get the most and quickest hot babes in your bed... FACT..

if you lack money and looks you can still get lucky but it will be much less often and with less attractive women..

its all based on basic supply and demand logic..
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You guys think about women's motives and analyze them too much.

Just live your lives.
 

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The fact is that women notice your looks first more than your money and fame. If there was a way to get rich, famous, and super handsome, we'd all be doing it right now.

Women always play games, and if you don't have these qualities, there's more games, flaking, etc. No matter how ugly the girl is, you've got competition. Women are the ones who don't have any trouble getting a date. Most men do.

Remember that all women desire a handsome millionaire doctor or famous celebrity as a long term lover & provider. But that guy doesn't exist a lot, so they have to take away from their long list of requirements little by little.

Think about when a girl answered the phone and told you she was busy. She wouldn't be too busy and tied up for Brad Pitt, would she? F**k no. She just found another man who's more interesting than you. I dated a woman who was 50, and she didn't put out on the first night. She never answered the phone for me since the date even though we made out heavily. Then she complained about me being a hard working man trying to come up, and that I'd never have time for her. Sh*t, I've been hurt so damn much in the dating game I did what most men do when there's no love in their lives. Work more, and make more money. I wanted to wait till I became a millionaire to get back in the dating game, but I have to face the fact that it seems light years away, and that I'm at a big disadvantage.

I know damn well that women play games with the average working man trying to come up. But they jump for joy when they have a chance to date a working man who already made it! Even women twice your age have this sense of entitlement that they deserve a rich, famous, goodlooking man. It's tough to keep a woman these days, the number of desperate males keeps rising, and it's becoming fairly obvious that a woman's love is overpriced.
 
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You guys think about women's motives and analyze them too much.

Just live your lives.
I couldn't agree more.

Anyone would think getting women is as complex as the Science behind the Manhattan Project. :rolleyes:

Money, Looks and Fame! It all seems rather like Jersey Shore to me.
 

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It's tough to keep a woman these days, the number of desperate males keeps rising, and it's becoming fairly obvious that a woman's love is overpriced.
Yep, you'd think that the market would realize that their love is over-bought. It ain't worth that much. Actually it's quite costly. Gone are the days of women in the kitchen with the apron. Now that's Cheap.
 

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maverick72 said:
You guys think about women's motives and analyze them too much.

Just live your lives.
Don't focus on women. Focus on getting more cash so YOU can live your life more happily. Girls will come and go. If you think a girl is cute chat her up and ask for her number or vice versa. If she is choosin she will make it easy for you. If not then f*ck her.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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maverick72 said:
You guys think about women's motives and analyze them too much.

Just live your lives.
lol... for most men its hard so they have to think of ways to get what they want from women... its getting more and more difficult so men are trying harder and thinking more ..if you are a straight man there is no way around it.
 
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