"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Here is George Clooney's hot new girlfriend Stacy Keibler.

Sorry, guys but fame, wealth, or goodlooks is your answer to getting many (or any)hot babes.
If you are a regular guy with a regular job just get a girl with "character" and skip the gorgeous girls. Otherwise your life will be miserable being a don juan and knowing "what to say and how to say it or how to act" in order to keep a beautiful girl around because there will always another guy(wolf) waiting in the wings ready to take your babe. He will either have money, goodlooks or fame. Don juan doesn't have game over those 3 things. Nothing trumps those 3 things in this world

My advice: Skip the Don Juan stuff. Study and work very hard on improving your 1.) looks, 2.) accumulating wealth, or 3.) being famous. The women will then come to you by the boatloads.

Money, Fame or Fortune gets you this...anyday, any night....link below.


http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...b=132a57g2s&sigi=125p63slv&.crumb=61UVhaKruWe
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I believe in what mav is saying. If you have the money and power the b1tches come much easier and you yourself are in a much better position in life. The best combination would be being rich AND knowing the don juan arts which george clooney probably does via being a natural.
 

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3countriesPlan, well said. Money and being a don juan would be good combo.

These guys need to realize that being just a don juan isn't the answer to bedding or dating gorgeous women.
Instead of the misery of constantly playing jedi mind tricks to get laid or keeping a girl interested. Such as: "How can I keep this girl wanting more?" "What should I say when she says this?" "What should I do when she does this?" "How do I approach her?" "How do I keep her around?"
HEADACHES.

Instead work on the foundation.-- Strive to become better looking, money hungry(better job and status), and getting famous.

Women stick to those three things like crazy glue. Then you have to do any of the work.

An old adage: Men who chase money are chased by women.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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maverick72 said:
3countriesPlan, well said. Money and being a don juan would be good combo.

These guys need to realize that being just a don juan isn't the answer to bedding or dating gorgeous women.
Instead of the misery of constantly playing jedi mind tricks to get laid or keeping a girl interested. Such as: "How can I keep this girl wanting more?" "What should I say when she says this?" "What should I do when she does this?" "How do I approach her?" "How do I keep her around?"
HEADACHES.

Instead work on the foundation.-- Strive to become better looking, money hungry(better job and status), and getting famous.

Women stick to those three things like crazy glue. Then you have to do any of the work.

An old adage: Men who chase money are chased by women.
So true man.....women are the reason men invented money. When I go out the only area where the certified stunners hang out are surprise.....Buckhead and Dunwoody two of the wealthiest districts in the country.. And believe me when I say they could care less about your pretty face or your charming personality.....no money, no play.

I happen to live in the same condo high-rise as a fairly well-known R&B singer. While you guys waste all your time chasing substandard women, my R&B neighbor has 9s and 10s constantly lined up to hang out with him. I've seen it with my own eyes and it shattered my delusions that somehow my "DJ charm" would have a similar effect.

Not to discredit the DJ stuff, it does work....if you're willing to play the numbers game and understand that as an average man, you will be putting in the active effort to win women over. When it comes to trying to live the "player lifestyle," flaking, rejection, games, substandard women (both physically and mentally) will be the norm for most guys not in the top 20% percentile.
 

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maverick72 said:
Here is George Clooney's hot new girlfriend Stacy Keibler.

Sorry, guys but fame, wealth, or goodlooks is your answer to getting many (or any)hot babes.
If you are a regular guy with a regular job just get a girl with "character" and skip the gorgeous girls. Otherwise your life will be miserable being a don juan and knowing "what to say and how to say it or how to act" in order to keep a beautiful girl around because there will always another guy(wolf) waiting in the wings ready to take your babe. He will either have money, goodlooks or fame. Don juan doesn't have game over those 3 things. Nothing trumps those 3 things in this world

My advice: Skip the Don Juan stuff. Study and work very hard on improving your 1.) looks, 2.) accumulating wealth, or 3.) being famous. The women will then come to you by the boatloads.

Money, Fame or Fortune gets you this...anyday, any night....link below.


http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...b=132a57g2s&sigi=125p63slv&.crumb=61UVhaKruWe
To me people have distorted what it means to be a"don juan".

A don juan is a male that knows how to "play" with a female and in the process get as close as possible to her, which is sex. Then he disappears and she never forgets him.

The don juan doesn't need to be rich our famous, he just needs to have a certain style that generates attraction in females.

A good example of a don juan would be Leonardo Decaprio's character he played in the movie Titanic.

That guy had nothing, and yet the female chose him over a handsome wealthy guy.
 

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3countriesPlan said:
I believe in what mav is saying. If you have the money and power the b1tches come much easier.
That's right.
That's why Jay-Z has 99 problems but a b!tch ain't one.
 

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Wasn't she just dating Kanye West? None of these gorgeous girls last with ANYBODY. I don't know why people can't seem to grasp that. It's like, they believe, if they acquired all these things, gorgeous women would stick around. They won't. None of it matters, because they're always on the prowl.

It's not always the guy with the problem. A lot of these girls jump from guy to guy because they CAN. It doesn't matter who they get with, or how great the guy is. There's always someone better in their minds. Then you also have the fact that these girls are usually stupid and shallow. Why waste so much of your life chasing after worthless women?

A lot of these techniques should be used to date girls that are actually worth keeping. But, everyone is more interested in dating hot retards - then complaining when the techniques don't work. Nothing works. They're going to keep acting like retards, playing you, and pissing you off regardless. It's who they are.

I remember one of those "Would you like to know... Here are the secrets, inside this thing you have to buy" schemes. It was talking about how to the bad boy to KEEP the women you want. Pamela Anderson and Carmen Electra were cited as examples. Yeah, too bad those bad boys couldn't keep them either. At least in Tommy Lee's case, he ended up hating her, because she was stupid and manipulative.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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jacob said:
To me people have distorted what it means to be a"don juan".

A don juan is a male that knows how to "play" with a female and in the process get as close as possible to her, which is sex. Then he disappears and she never forgets him.
Anyone can do that. Doesn't take much skill at all to be a jerk and get laid. It's a lot harder to actually keep someone around. That's where having game plays a huge role.
 

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I'm willing to bet George Clooney has game.
absolutely. he could get laid on that voice alone. the man is a professional actor who is paid millions for his talent. his looks help, but its his charm and talent that have brought him fame
 

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Wasn't she just dating Kanye West? None of these gorgeous girls last with ANYBODY. I don't know why people can't seem to grasp that. It's like, they believe, if they acquired all these things, gorgeous women would stick around. They won't. None of it matters, because they're always on the prowl.

It's not always the guy with the problem. A lot of these girls jump from guy to guy because they CAN. It doesn't matter who they get with, or how great the guy is. There's always someone better in their minds. Then you also have the fact that these girls are usually stupid and shallow. Why waste so much of your life chasing after worthless women?

A lot of these techniques should be used to date girls that are actually worth keeping. But, everyone is more interested in dating hot retards - then complaining when the techniques don't work. Nothing works. They're going to keep acting like retards, playing you, and pissing you off regardless. It's who they are.

I remember one of those "Would you like to know... Here are the secrets, inside this thing you have to buy" schemes. It was talking about how to the bad boy to KEEP the women you want. Pamela Anderson and Carmen Electra were cited as examples. Yeah, too bad those bad boys couldn't keep them either. At least in Tommy Lee's case, he ended up hating her, because she was stupid and manipulative.
I don't disagree with you at all. BBD seeking stunners are terrible for relationships.

Thing is, most men don't even have the option of dating them or equally attractive women in the first place. Tommy Lee may have failed to keep Pam, but there were no shortage of stunners waiting to take her spot.

It's all about maximizing your options and while rich famous men may suffer the same relationship problems everyone else does, at least they don't have to worry about finding a hot date on Friday night.
 

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The problem, sstype, is that people believe, if they had all these things - the women would stick around. This is false. Being good-looking or famous means absolutely jack to a bombshell - because she's always dating someone new.

These guys complain like, if only they were this and that - it'd be so much easier to have a hot GIRLFRIEND. They only finish last because they're not attractive enough, too nice, blah blah. None of this is true. You're still going to finish last regardless. She's still going to play games, cheat, and annoy you to death - then leave you to rot. You just managed to attract a retard, and make things even worse for yourself. Victory!

If people had all these things - I can almost guarantee that they'd still be complaining. "Ok, so I dated a hot girl... Why is she cheating on me with the whole city? Why is she so annoying and stupid?" Because its what they do! Nothing you have or get is going to change how other people are. They're not going to suddenly become nice, faithful, etc. You're just going to attract them, and get caught up in their web of chaos and stupidity.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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floydb25 said:
Anyone can do that. Doesn't take much skill at all to be a jerk and get laid.
Really? lol So any guy can just act like a d!ck and get pvssy? I highly doubt that.

It takes skill, and technique to be that don juan and that's where the staring into their eyes, kino, push pull etc. come into play. Not money or fame. Hell I no homeless guys that are these true "don juan's" that I mention above and they game females that fall for them and buy them things, give them money and even shelter.

Then these guys leave the girl to journey on and the female are left there wondering when he'll return. I know, because I'm one of these "Titanic" Don Juan's lol.

And as far as being able to keep a woman, again to me that no longer is "don juan", For a don juan lay's with many women, and leaves a wake of broken hearts behind him, what the OP and many advocate on getting wealthy and high status is more like how to be a husband material, yet we know that no matter how rich, famous or good looking you are a woman or wife still strays, because there's that real "don juan" that is so captivating that she feels compelled to know and love this interesting human being, that may not be rich with material possesions, but because he has this spirit that knows how to connect with her spirit....
 

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Really? lol So any guy can just act like a d!ck and get pvssy? I highly doubt that.
There are definitely different skill levels.
But there will always be slvtty women around who will hump practically anything. To get laid, all you have to do is identify who these women are, and proceed. If that's what you're into.
 

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The problem, sstype, is that people believe, if they had all these things - the women would stick around. This is false. Being good-looking or famous means absolutely jack to a bombshell - because she's always dating someone new.

These guys complain like, if only they were this and that - it'd be so much easier to have a hot GIRLFRIEND. They only finish last because they're not attractive enough, too nice, blah blah. None of this is true. You're still going to finish last regardless. She's still going to play games, cheat, and annoy you to death - then leave you to rot. You just managed to attract a retard, and make things even worse for yourself. Victory!

If people had all these things - I can almost guarantee that they'd still be complaining. "Ok, so I dated a hot girl... Why is she cheating on me with the whole city? Why is she so annoying and stupid?" Because its what they do! Nothing you have or get is going to change how other people are. They're not going to suddenly become nice, faithful, etc. You're just going to attract them, and get caught up in their web of chaos and stupidity.
Again, I'm not talking about relationships here. I don't disagree with you at all.

What I am simply saying is average men delude themselves into thinking with DJ/PUA skills they can live a rockstar lifestyle bedding a new hot girl every week.

Not surprisingly they get frustrated and bitter when faced with the reality that most attractive women couldn't care less about your ****y and funny routine and ability to confidently approach. Then you see threads about how women are *****es, flakey, play games blah blah blah. Don't blame the women, blame the better men that diverted their attention away from you.

That's why everyone says "play the numbers game." You're dead in the water to most of these women before you even open your mouth, so luck and timing play a big role here. The DJ skills don't necessarily make you more sexually desirable to women as a whole, they just position you to seal the deal when you do run into a chick who's available and happens to be initially attracted to you.

If you're willing to play that game, more power to you. Otherwise, if you want to live the rockstar lifestyle, then quit wasting your time here and be an actual rockstar!
 

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Mel Gibson

SStype another good point. I agree with you on that. Become the rockstar instead of acting like a rockstar with the ****y/funny DJ stuff to nail babes. That is as real as it gets guys. You have to become the "real rockstar."

Some other good points. No one on this earth is immune to women's mind games neither. Not even the rich or famous are immune to female manipulations. Mel Gibson is an example.
His russian girlfriend was a game playing witch to the nth degree. The problem was he was crazy about her and he got his emotions involved with her. The psycho got off the hook and he walked away financially unscathed and hopefully learned a lesson from it. Women can be demons.
But since Mel Gibson is a moviestar he still had many gorgeous options (babes) lined up waiting to date him after the divorce.. Fame, money, and goodlooks do that.

But no matter how rich or poor, handsome or unattractive, famous or obscurity----women will play games, test you, and leave a hole in your heart if your not aware of their games.
 

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I moved to LA 8 years ago or so and quickly landed a gig as a carpenter on a TLC home improvement show. We rocked out 120 episodes and toured the western US for 2 years before the plug was pulled. Mind you, this was a D- cable tv show, but still, the amount of azz I pulled from this very minor bit of celebrityness was fun. All pretty much pump and dump scenarios.

At the same time I was studying here and practicing my DJ skills. You see... I am a recovering AFC. So now I was a double threat. Especially when I flew home during hiatuses. But these were mainly the girls outside of LA.

In LA you're a nobody. It's all about power. Stacy Keibler is dating Clooney more for his power statues. He's an A list celebrity. She's a C at best. Believe it or not that's how it works.

Keiblers PR people set her up with him. He accepted. Can't blame him. But for Clooney there's no power benefit. The only benefit is a hot chick high centered on his crank. So it probably won't last long. He'll get his boiling balls drained then NEXT!

Things like love and having game really don't factor in a Clooney life.

So back to original post. Fame will get you laid. True. Wealth, of course. Good looks no doubt helps. I landed a smoker in LA, but the real reasons she loved and stayed with me was because of everything I learned here.

Over the years she confessed this and that reminiscing on things I did that turned her on. My posture, walk, voice, ... my no jealousy stand. I'd disagree with her. I never asked, just did and lead. Etc... Her whole life was filled with chodes that kissed her dumper. Not me.

It all came from this site. No gimmicks. Just learning to be a man. My minor fame is long gone. But I'm still able to pull as much azz as I want based on the DJ life style. The whole deck is in my hands and I can play whatever card I want. I've got the power.

BTW. I met Stacy Keibler once and she's just as hot as in pics. Lots of those celeb girls in real life can actually look pretty scary. Not her.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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