It blows my mind how someone like you can't make a living as a dating coach. Did you see my Bootcamp journal? The struggle is unreal. Guys like me would easily pay a bunch of thousands for coaching.
Just an example, in my country there is this guy called Marquardt Frickert. He is the German equivalent to you in a forum that is also the country's equivalent to SoSuave. He charges exorbitant prices and can barely handle all the requests. I even considered getting him to coach me despite this.
To give you a newbie perspective, the issue for guys like me is trust. "Does this guy really know what he is doing?"
Reason why I think this? Because I found out people like you exist. In my opinion, you seem closer to a master. Why would I pay 1-3k for 3 days one-on-one coaching just to become second rate? If you lived in the same country, I would have asked you for this kind of service. I imagine you could give more reasonable prices too, compared to guys like that.
You say "$100/mo price tag", which I don't really understand. Did you try to make money by doing this remotely? If you did, it makes sense for this to not have worked out. Blockheads like me want someone like a "big bro" to show them how it's done in person.
I'll be honest, I would never pay money for remote coaching because PUA and DJ forums exist. Someone with an IQ high enough to attempt self-improvement, will also notice this. What additional value can remote coaching even provide with all the foolproof step-by-step guides?
Read any newbie posts, the single thing practically everyone lacks is something like a gym coach. Maybe you have forgotten since you came this far? To overcome inhibition all alone is brutal.
If your decision is already finalized, don't mind my post. Or Perhaps I'm misunderstanding and you have already tried what I decribed. But again, it blows my mind that you aren't loaded by now.
I appreciate you holding me in such high regard.
I've been delivering my service through weekly check-in calls, dedicated channels with individualized assignments, workout routines, and audits (looks, clothes, etc). And that process DID work, very quickly, as a matter of fact, as evidenced by
@nicksaiz65 success and my high-ticket client Ben, who lurks on this forum.
Performing this service in person, the way you describe, is something that I'd love to be able to do, but it doesn't make sense financially for me.
Think about how much you would be willing to pay someone like me for an immersion weekend. Maybe $1,000 - $3,000?
- Flight - Depending on where I'm flying, it would cost about $500 round trip
- Hotel - Average hotel price in the USA is $150/night, so that's another $300 if I were to do this for 2 nights
- Car - Average rental car price per day is about $50, so that would be another $100
- Festivities - Bars and clubs are where it would be easiest to teach approaching and closing, so when you factor in the cost of Ubers, perhaps cover charges, drinks, etc., that would probably be at least $100/night, so at least another $200 total
Beyond that, if I'm flying to your town, I have to do a LOT of legwork to find out where the spots are to go out and meet women - since I'm assuming that whoever I'm helping likely doesn't already know that information if they need my help meeting women. Plus, if you're paying all this money for my time and expertise, you probably don't want certain things included in that price: perhaps not having to wait in line, not having to pay for your Uber to the bar with me, and not having to pay for your/my drinks.
Now...if I charged enough and kept my costs low enough, this is a model that COULD be profitable, so I'm not saying it CAN'T work. What I am saying is that if people outside of the forum don't know me, or trust me - at least not the way those on THIS forum do - how can I expect them to spend thousands of dollars on me?
Remember, in just over a year, I was only able to build my Instagram to a little over 400 followers. I can't use certain messaging because, for example, I was suspended from Stripe due to selling "sexual services" as they deemed it, which extends to difficulties when it comes to advertising. Approaching and recording women is likely to get my accounts suspended or outright banned. And even if a strategy "works" when it comes to approaching women, the comments people are reading are from Karens and white knights calling me disgusting, saying what "really works", or labeling me a misogynist.
There are a LOT of problems I had to overcome without being paid, and even then, most people would rather spend their money on a dating profile makeover or a texting script.
Like I'd said before, I haven't gone and deleted everything, but it was damaging my personal relationships, costing me money, and I wasn't getting paid.
Know what, let's ask
@nicksaiz65 . How much would you have been willing to spend if, instead of what we did online, I'd spent a weekend with you, approaching and providing advice?
