Money and Life

[int3l]

Okay, so for me personally the **** has hit the fan.
On the surface level my life is one of serenity, it is peaceful, beautiful and almost seemingly perfect. What total ****ing bull****.

Beneath this facade i'm a 19 year old university student that has undergone a number of trials due to my own ****ing stupidity and trials from outside influences. Needless to say I've realized that nothing is going to change unless i make those changes, regardless of what happens around me.

I've been going to the gym and been making definite progress (Health)

I've realized what i want to pursue in my academic career and what will eventually lead to be my professional life (seems stupid to say this at 19, but whatever happens i'm going to stay on this path until i find out for myself what it truly is like)

I have slowly come to realize that to me personally Don Juan philosophy is not the mass attraction of women, it is for me to ensure i become a man, an alpha male, whole in mind, body and spirit.

None of this will be easy, none of it will be fast, it is my journey and it will be a slow process of agonizing steps in the direction i hope to be correct. I will force myself to keep moving; to keep looking ahead, to not compare, to understand that life is not a race but a journey. God, why is this concept so hard to fully understand even as i write this...

I guess it's hard to understand because so much of this journey involves the appreciation of money, as sad as it is to have your life revolve around the spindling of money, realistically speaking, money is almost everything. Almost.

As much as i hate money, i appreciate it just as much. While it may not directly influence my pursuit of what i believe would be my perfect body, academic skills and social skills it underlies many aspects of life.

SO, i need advice. I have a meager sum (AU$1000.00) saved in a bank account. I was planning to spend it towards a ski/snowboarding trip with a few mates and my girlfriend (Before i got older and such things weren't so possible) but perhaps it would be a better deal for me to shelve this trip and start spindling this money in some way to allow it to grow and accumulate?

Honestly i don't know what to do with it. In regards to money i was raised with the concept that debt was bad and that if i really wanted something I'd save for it in the bank. I still hold this belief. Obviously debt is bad, but the active use of money is often a better way to promote its growth then to let it sit in a savings account.

SO, again. Should i go on this trip? make plans for it? or ...
start investing? start something on eBAY? Do something to hopefully promote its growth? I don't know.

money just seems like an aspect of my life that should be left for when i have a stable income and a flashy job, life has made me realize not everything goes as planned so if i want something i should go for it now. I want both, but i can't, so i'd appreciate the help of you people, people who have lived and experienced more, in a sense, been there and done that.

Thanks


edit: To clear some confusion, it's not that i hate money, its more i dislike the hold it has over our basic requirements of living. I think a lot of people would agree that they'd love to be rich.

 

[DarthAngel707]

The answer lies within.

 

[int3l]

... I think i almost understood the point you tried to make, I'd still like some alternate feedback though..

 

[Magma]

You are young and you have your best asset-earning years ahead of you. So you have time to make that money back. However, you shouldn't be spending 100% of your investible assets on vacations. FWIW...

 

[Zaraza]

Allow yourself to save some money. I was raised with the idea of saving money, i grew up in russia and was poor. I then moved to america at 7 years old and watched my mother struggle because of money and language. I personaly feel uncomfortable not having anything saved up. Right now i work at a bank while i go to school and i see teens (im 20, so im a teen too almost) Have no money in their accounts... i cant do that so instead i do save money. But i also do go out and have a good time. Dont spend all of your savings, only a portion of it. You and I will keep learning as the time passes.

 

[Interceptor]

As much as i hate money....

This is a very bad place to operate from.

Money is neutral. There's no reason to 'hate' it.

I believe the more you hate money, the more you fill find that it will not come to you. In other words, if you hate money so much, you will find that it will act on your beliefs and you will get what you want (ie "I hate money. So I repulse it from my life").

Since you seem to hate money,and we always get what we 'want', you will get what you 'want'...no money. And more reasons to hate it.




It's very important to have a healthy relationship with money.


Hating it is not healthy.


You may want to address this before you do anything.

 

[int3l]

Ah! sorry i must have given the wrong impression. Hate is too much of a strong word for what i really feel about money. I like money, I'll venture that i even love money... it just annoys me that money is so needed to survive in this world for any basic standard of living.

Also, interceptor anything else you could recommend? I for one really appreciate your insight, a lot of your posts and threads have really resonated with me.

 

[backbreaker]

“If you want to be truly successful invest in yourself to get the knowledge you need to find your unique factor. When you find it and focus on it and persevere your success will blossom.”

 

[edger]

I believe the more you hate money, the more you fill find that it will not come to you. In other words, if you hate money so much, you will find that it will act on your beliefs and you will get what you want (ie "I hate money. So I repulse it from my life").

Since you seem to hate money,and we always get what we 'want', you will get what you 'want'...no money. And more reasons to hate it.

Good post here. As much as someone might hate money, the best thing you can do, is, try and make the best of it. I agree, having to rely on money to get by in this world sux terribly, I can't stand it either, it's not "natural" to the human condition living under it. The best thing you can do is to try and work with it the best you can, since you essentially have no choice, as it's forced upon you.

It's very important to have a healthy relationship with money.


Hating it is not healthy.

Money is neutral. There's no reason to 'hate' it.

The thing people need to understand though, is that, no one can ever have a "healthy" relationship with money, because living under money is not natural for human beings. Really think about that for a sec. Human beings in their 'natural state' are meant to work and provide for themselves the way they did 1,000 yrs ago(in tribal societies). That's why there's so much tension in the workplace..because it is not natural for people having someone telling them what to do, nor having to do something you don't wanna do, nor having someone tell you when you can come and go. Nobody's meant to live that way...that's why there's a lot of violence, stress, "mid-life crisis's", depression, nervous breakdowns, etc. etc. I know we're different(not completely though) from animals, but look how they live. Do they answer to anybody? No, they answer to themselves, they work and provide for THEMSELVES, and their young. They live relatively happy lives I'd say.