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Modern women - boring with little to offer, but expecting...what, exactly?

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Granted, a lot of the dating has shifted into the online realm, where looks are much more important. But what I'm seeing is vast majority of women on OLD seem extremely boring with not much interests of their own. Granted, some look amazing, and those are the ones that are even more entitled than the others. But the weird thing about it is you message them (they won't message first unless you're a 10), and then no reply. OK, I guess they expect unique opening lines or something. But they give nothing to open with - just one or two basic photos with no description or bio. So what kind of unique opening messages are they expecting us to come up with? Or as the old saying goes, "entertain me, peasant"?
 

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You must learn that OLD requires some pretty decent text game to get good results. Yes you must message first and set a date within the first 4-6 messages. Good luck
 

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An attractive woman gets plenty of attention irl, why would she need to go on OLD?
 

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Tinder isn't a place to be humble. Get some pics of you in your best clothes looking dapper af. Flaunt whatever you have that's impressive, make it seem like nbd. It's the bottom tier dating app with no barrier for entry, so expect the most bland, most boring qualities to be the most common.

OLD and nerds are mostly men, you have to get creative. There are apps that are primarily women and the focus isn't dating, but rather communication or some common hobby.

If you want something long term try christian mingle or match.
 

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Granted, a lot of the dating has shifted into the online realm, where looks are much more important. But what I'm seeing is vast majority of women on OLD seem extremely boring with not much interests of their own. Granted, some look amazing, and those are the ones that are even more entitled than the others. But the weird thing about it is you message them (they won't message first unless you're a 10), and then no reply. OK, I guess they expect unique opening lines or something. But they give nothing to open with - just one or two basic photos with no description or bio. So what kind of unique opening messages are they expecting us to come up with? Or as the old saying goes, "entertain me, peasant"?
They want you to dance for them. So dance, monkey, dance.
 

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An attractive woman gets plenty of attention irl, why would she need to go on OLD?
Don’t be so sure. Swipe apps are geared mostly towards professionals and women in professional fields don’t get as much attention as you might think. The me too/sexual harassment scare is real. Fewer and fewer men are willing to put their careers on the line by flirting with someone they know through work and that is especially true in the professional fields.

The only way those women get a lot of IRL attention is if they hang out in clubs or bars a lot and many women do not like meeting men that way. The bottom line is that although this may seem counterintuitive, there are good looking women out there who are not getting a lot of attention, especially not from the type of men they want attention from.
 

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Don’t be so sure. Swipe apps are geared mostly towards professionals and women in professional fields don’t get as much attention as you might think. The me too/sexual harassment scare is real. Fewer and fewer men are willing to put their careers on the line by flirting with someone they know through work and that is especially true in the professional fields.

The only way those women get a lot of IRL attention is if they hang out in clubs or bars a lot and many women do not like meeting men that way. The bottom line is that although this may seem counterintuitive, there are good looking women out there who are not getting a lot of attention, especially not from the type of men they want attention from.
I've never personally been a fan of careerist women, it's something that is incredibly masculine and out of place for a woman. On OLD the only women who seemed to put weight to their career were asian and indian girls.

Most good looking women would at least have a social circle, as long she has a somewhat decent personality.

On OLD they are swamped with attention from low value men, it makes them bitter and jaded. It's not a healthy environment for anyone to be in.
 
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I've never personally been a fan of careerist women, it's something that is incredibly masculine and out of place for a woman.
The problem is that all women except for onlyfans and instagram wh*res are career women these days. They either have good careers or sh!tty careers. I’d rather date a woman in, say, accounting or finance than a hairdresser or make up “artist”.

I know that swipe apps get a bad rep here but they’ve worked well for me personally.
 

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Yea, I will agree. Their entitlement is ridiculous. Reason being, a female, any female, 49ers, average, and above average can get any dude it seems. So, there really isn't a reason why they shouldn't have a lower self-worth in the dating marketplace. I've seen females, like 200 + lbs with dudes who are thin and in shape. Not even a pretty face, just tons of fun. IDK. I can understand average females, maybe with 10 - 20 lbs who's trying to work it off. But, sea cows?? Just jerk off to porn hub..
 

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The problem is that all women except for onlyfans and instagram wh*res are career women these days. They either have good careers or sh!tty careers. I’d rather date a woman in, say, accounting or finance than a hairdresser or make up “artist”.

I know that swipe apps get a bad rep here but they’ve worked well for me personally.
if she is working it's good if you outclass professionally her workmates and boss.
 

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OP, patrice O Neal said it twenty years ago, "women just think the holy ghost will drop a good man on their lap"

THis behaviour has purely been put on steroids thanks to social media,

women do not care about men, they care about what men can do for them. you ask a woman why she is self improving it will always be herself, she would never say "to bag a top man"

Suffragettes died for women to have freedom, yet in 2021 their passions and hobbies max out at "wine & selfies" ...

you will notice they all use the word "deserve" and think they are G/f material, its like they all go to the same church and get installed with the same ECU
 

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OP, patrice O Neal said it twenty years ago, "women just think the holy ghost will drop a good man on their lap"

THis behaviour has purely been put on steroids thanks to social media,

women do not care about men, they care about what men can do for them. you ask a woman why she is self improving it will always be herself, she would never say "to bag a top man"

Suffragettes died for women to have freedom, yet in 2021 their passions and hobbies max out at "wine & selfies" ...

you will notice they all use the word "deserve" and think they are G/f material, its like they all go to the same church and get installed with the same ECU
For most of them, what they "deserve" is a good pump.
 

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Granted, a lot of the dating has shifted into the online realm, where looks are much more important. But what I'm seeing is vast majority of women on OLD seem extremely boring with not much interests of their own. Granted, some look amazing, and those are the ones that are even more entitled than the others. But the weird thing about it is you message them (they won't message first unless you're a 10), and then no reply. OK, I guess they expect unique opening lines or something. But they give nothing to open with - just one or two basic photos with no description or bio. So what kind of unique opening messages are they expecting us to come up with? Or as the old saying goes, "entertain me, peasant"?
I am still amazed how many guys opt for OLD and fail to recognize how toxic it is and what it cultivates in the dating world/intergender dynamics/female empowerment/etc.

Questions about OLD should not be taken seriously anymore. If you use it and it works, great, if you use and complain, that's on you.

But to your point, yes. That is a well-known issue in modern dating. These women with nothing to offer have unrealistic expectations. Society has cemented the idea that beauty adds value and therefore they can just sit back and relax. The core problem is that simps and thirsty men fall for that and that enables their entitlement and lazy attitude.

Modern Man Advice
 

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I am still amazed how many guys opt for OLD and fail to recognize how toxic it is and what it cultivates in the dating world/intergender dynamics/female empowerment/etc.
Enlighten me please on how participating in OLD cultivates "female empowerment" any more than hitting on women at a bar or on the street?
 
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