"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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i'm new over here this is a bit long but i hope you guys can bypass that


hey guys can you read this over and let me know what you think... i've had ALOT of GOOD with girls and also alot BADS i really dont know what to do now. this was a convo from monday night... i should really stop talking to her on aim but thats like the only way i can cuz she doesn't call me and i told her that i lost her number (which i did but just found on friday) and i told her on thursday that i nto gonna talk to on aim anymore cuz she said in this convo that i only talk to her on aim... lol bad stuff man



Her: hey...i really ain no u was gay
Me: whatchu talking about willis?
Her: haha
Her: ur man joe
Me:eek:h you never knew?
DMosWntd1: now do you know why i never asked you out?
Her: wow
Her: i thot u was jus scared or sum like dat....
Her: does joe no bout ur feelings for him
Her: lol
Her: cuz i could hook yall up
Me: naw i can handle it myself
Me: lol but yeah seriously yeah i liked you but i didnt want to ask you out cuz i wanted to hang with you alone once so i could get to know you better... but that never went through so i backed off
Her: shawn n eric wer talkin bout u in computers 2day but i 4get bout wut
Her: how *** i never c u in llunch anymore
DMosWntd1: shawn and eric who?
Her: carter and cifelli
Me:???? idk why but yeah thats cool
Me: nice way to change the subject i like that
Me: but idk i dont like eating lunch that early
Her: na i was typin dat wen u sed da other thing
Her: so wut u jus hav 2 study halls now?
Me: i guess
Me: lol did you just noticed that today?
Her: na i been cing dat
Me: lol aww you miss me?
Her: im jus now askin u tho
Her: u never talked to me anywa
Her: y
Her: jerk
Her: lol jk
Me: hey i just confessed my deep most feeling thats how you treat me?
Her: lol
Her: but u only talked 2 me online
Me: woman i'm not darren
Her: lol
Her: but u do
Me: you serious?
Her: lol yea
Me: oh man thats bad huh?
Her: lol its not bad...im jus sayin
Me: i really dont have any classes with you ... the only time i see you is when you come to my study hall
Me: its all good tho it wasnt like you liked me anyways
Her: wow i def feel like u tried 2 put me on the spot there
Me: ???
Me: there is no spot to put you on.. is there?
Her: na i jus felt lyk u wer askin me if i lykd u ryt there
Me: no
Me: lol you're making it seem liek you do
Me: lol omg is that a yes?
suatraccionfatal: idk....lol
Her: i don think so buddy
Her: u try n poison me ....not cool
Me: lol good answer... and could changeup with the poison
Me: i like that ... but we both know the truth you just gotta admit
Her:how was dat a good answer
Her: n i don get da nd paart of dat sentence
Me: you said idk ... instead of giving a direct answer liek yes or no
Her: o
Her: brb
Me: i'm going out actaully
Me: talk to some other time
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aight i'm seriously about to stop imming this girl cuz its getting me no where but i was stupid enough to do it thursday and i made her a bet that she wouldnt call me cuz i lost her number and i told her that if she calls i'll buy her a drink... so she doesnt call and in skool she gives me a drink. i go home today and i'm her cuz i wanted to know how she found out i might be moving to london, one thing lead to another and i started to get frustrated with her cuz she liked me but doesnt want to admit and i want to know if she still does so i know if i should bother but liek shes giving me mixed signals... she will talk to me on aim but if i tell her to call me she won't and then she has a right to say that i only talk to her online? WDF i swear girls are starting to piss me off more and more. i've liked tried to set dates with girl like 3 time and each time she either grounded/working or wants me to go with her friend but i say no. i dont know what to do anymore.


my game isnt bad i've read alot on this stuff and went out and done some stuff i had this girl saying she liked me but whenevr i tried ot hang with her she gave me some bull then she says that i only talk to her on aim... is there anyway of fixing this or should jus end this now
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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HAAHAHAHAHAHAH shed rather waste money on a drink then talk to u lmao, give it up bro
 

Skilla_Staz

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I hurt myself trying to follow that. Ow.

Me: its all good tho it wasnt like you liked me anyways
Chump. NEVER cut yourself down. NEVER fish for compliments. NEVER tell a girl that she doesn't like you. ALWAYS act like you're the most amazing guy shes ever met.

This is why she doesn't want you. You handled it like a girl would. You fished. You didn't handle it like a man and made excuses why.

AIM conversations should be limited. Very limited. Use the phone. Use school. Use anything except AIM, MSN, Myspace, etc. for regular conversation.


Move on bro.
 

WhAcKeD!

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What is becoming of these forums. Seriously.

You are an AFC, period.

She doesn't like you, when you brought it up she changed subjects and tried to maneuver around the question. Get over it and move on, then read the DJ Bible and don't repeat your mistakes.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Skilla_Staz

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I agree. These forums are teeming with AFC's who are too quick to ask questions and too lazy to attempt the advice.

Hence my "FAQs: So Suave Style" thread.
 

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my apologies i didnt know how to find the dj bible but just have and i'll be reading it now...

p.s. she does like me she admitted but when i asked her to hang out she said she doesnt really know when we can.

although i'm new here its seems you guys have a low patience/tolerance with people i dont know i'm just saying from what i've seen but i do see where you guys are coming from and yeah i will read the book hope it helps.


but most people post stuff hoping for quick replies/ real life peopl giving them advice... you were at our point once so bear with us.

i dont care you can call me an afc like i said i got a it frustrated and messed up i will improve it and hopefully with the help of the book i will prevent this and other stuff from happening again
 

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dmoney said:
p.s. she does like me she admitted but when i asked her to hang out she said she doesnt really know when we can.
never take a girl for her word. Always judge her feelings by her actions. if she really liked you, she would find the time to hang out with you.

Example: My ex-girlfriend use to work two jobs during the summer. guess what? she still came to visit me after she got off from her second job. Even though she would come over and pass out after 30 minutes, she still made the effort.

Now there was this one girl I was gaming and gave me the same **** excuse "I don't know when I would have time" so I nexted her. If she really did like me, she would have found time.

I agree with everyone else, never disqualify yourself, never fish for compliments and always act like YOU are the prize, not her.
 

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next her and give me some rep points
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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