"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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missed a fcuk... upset at myself!

wildleopard

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i posted a thread a couple of days ago but that never got read by a lot of people and no one bothered to advise... anyway, i realised it was maybe too lengthy so i am posting again with the portions i need advice on...

i met a chick at another friend's party and altho she wasnt into me thruout the evening, i ended up giving her a lift.. and she even wanted to join me for another party i was going to on the way...

once there, she started drinking a lot... and i had some kino going... anyway, as the night progressed, she drank even more .. then as we were leaving, she just hugged me and we made out for sometime.. with her trying to dry hump me... i sorta felt embarrassed with whole lotta people watching us and i dragged her out to take her home.. to which she created a big fuss... saying she isnt that easy...

now i reckon its at this point that i started to lose the plot and possibly killed my chance to bang her...

we got to her place in like 2 hours as she passed out on the way and i had to wait for her to wake up... anyway, finally we made it to her flat and we again did that make out thing and she basically was cupping my balls and i was caressing her whole body.. but we didnt undress each other..

then i tried to rid her of the big overcoat she was wearing.. and she surprisingly quickly buttoned it back up.. and led me to the bedroom, jumped on the bed and went to sleep with her face away from me... i was very cold, very tired and confused by this time [this was my first time of being in a girls place expecting a fcuk on the day i meet her]... so i basically didnt try anything else and just slept...

we woke up the next morning and talked about last night and she said 'we're not gonna have sex' and i knew that was a **** test and said thats okay and sex isnt everything... and says she doesnt remember anything about last night.. then we went for a walk and coffee etc... but the main thing was she didnt initiate any kino or gave me any hint of last night and i was confused again.. and then i left and she calls me an hour later thanking me for last night etc.. i was busy and said id call later..

anyway, i texted her the next day and just asking how she is... but thats all until now... i was thinking and basically kicking myself for missing an easy fcuk and wondering what could i have done differently for a better result...
should i have been more forceful or should i have initiated the act once she came to bed and basically just turned her face away...

do let me know about your thoughts guys... im still a improving dj...

Mark
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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AKA FLEX

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If she was so drunk she had to pass out on the street en route to her place, that isn't a lay I would have been proud of anyway. Sounds like you didn't miss any good, legitimate sex.

However, she seems like she has a decent IL so it shouldn't take more than a couple more times together to get in her pants the right way.
 

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I failed the damn BS "Im not gonna have sex " sht test 3 months ago... I tend to go with what people say so i didnt even try, i was turned of by her making that statement right before we got to her room... she should not have said that crap.
 

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I'd stay the hell away from girls who are drunk off their faces like that one. Is an easy fvck worth the chance of a false rape allegation?
 

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then as we were leaving, she just hugged me and we made out for sometime.. with her trying to dry hump me... i sorta felt embarrassed with whole lotta people watching us and i dragged her out to take her home..
Actually I'm pretty sure this qualifies as "doing something wrong." What are they going to say about you? 'Hey that f*ggot's about to get laid, what a f*cking loser!'

Should have just gone with it and had a good time, fvck other people's opinions.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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hey thanks for the responses....
DonS... i know that ASD exists in all women... but can you tell me how could i have disarmed her in this case or similar cases... or whats the best way to escalate so she doesnt do what she did... that would be helpful...

Jitterbug.. mate where are you exactly in Australia?

moreover, to take it to the next level or to try again, what is the best route? like what are some activities that can create a level of intimacy for me to escalate again in the same way... im actually putoff by her behaviour the next morning as she basically didnt want to have anything intimate at all... and just had a long talk and walk with me on the riverbank... but even when i was leaving, she made it a point to keep her lips away and just hugged me twice... so im not sure how her reaction would be this time...

i might look like im overanalyzing but thats gonna teach me a lot for future encounters... im very new in meeting women and this is the hottest woman of my whole life i would reckon... altho she would be like 7 in everyone else's books...
 
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