FutureSpartan
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This stuff is based off Gunwitch teachings, and with another barrage of thread debates about looks/money/power, there are just so many false conceptions about it that I think needs to be cleared up.
Its not about IF they matter but WHEN they matter.
Think about your common social environments
At school, at work, large social gatherings, clubs, bars. Who gets the most women thrown at them? The top quarterback, the star manager, the club DJ, bouncer, the handsome hunk, the drug dealer, the rich CEO...etc. Basically the "top dudes"
In a structured social environment, barring them if they are socially inept with women, attractive women will be inclined to f*ck these men. Not necessarily out of biological attraction, but more out of SOCIETAL acceptance and approval. They want some guy they can brag about to their friends.
Kinda like how we all want the busty blonde Pamela Anderson girlfriend, more because we want to impress others, even though she may not be our "ideal woman"
This is why you might be having a hard time getting an attractive girl you work or have a class with, or trying to hook up with someone at a club/bar.
Even though you may be biologically attractive to her, approach her, and game her properly, she will ONLY date the top quarterback or the popular guys at your school.
At a club, the DJ, bouncer, bartender, or some dude that is the IMAGE of the place (ripped, well dressed, great dancer type). Its not because she thinks your repulsive, its cause she wants to impress her family and friends (society), "Look girls, im dating this hot guy that can dance!"
This is Social Matching Theory 101.
Lets turn to biological attraction...
Now when I say biologically attractive, I mean that certain facial features in you turn her on at a visual level, assuming you're a normal looking guy. Just like how certain women may look like a 10 to me but a 7 to you. When we are lacking certain genetic traits, we are biologically programmed to find women lacking those traits extremely attractive. You might have seen a women that was probably a "cutie" to your guy friends, but her facial symmetry/features (and assuming she wasnt obese or anorexic) just gave you a boner in your pants. She's your 10, genetically she posseses what you lack. Based on this biological matching principle, she is more likely to see you as her 10 than say some girl that is your 6 or 7.
However, we have to not mistake our 10 as some Pamela Anderson or Paris Hilton lookalike that society deems a 10. Of course, any guy would f*ck her, with the big tits and blonde hair and all. But face wise she is probably a 6 or 7and thus not a great genetic match for someone like me.
Now if i threw in social matching theory in here, say your ten has a social prediliction to date guys with big muscles or rich men, well at worst she would probably see you as a 6 or 7. Which is still better if your biological 6's or 7's had that same prediliction, which in that case you start to fall into unattractive territory.
The key to finding which girls are your 10's is to really look and see if their facial look strikes you as "very attractive." The only way you would fail to get turned on by her is if she were obese, rail thinned or lacked any sort of feminine behavior. And vice versa for women towards men.
If you're an average guy without model looks or status, expanding your social circle is a common way to hook up with women. Make friends with everyone, including the hot girls, until you get networked with women that are biologically your 10. You have a much better shot hooking up with her than the other chicks, with the added benefit that she will you as guy with a lot of friends, safe to hook up with because "it happened with a guy I hang out with regular," and thus socially acceptable.
The above results in the typical average guy, hot girl scenario everyone here baffles about. He was attractive to her, biologically, and to some extent socially (being in her social circle).
You could also cold approach "your 10's" in nonstructured environments (supermarkets, parks, beaches, department stores). This way she has no preconceived notions or social conditionings about you, and can only base her initial thoughts of "Would I f*ck this guy" on her biological impulses, not on "what do my friends think of this guy." You basically have a clean slate with her as opposed to being "labelled" in a cluttered social environment, where you are one way, and she is another.
Now dont get me wrong there are many ways to f*ck it up and make her repulsed at you, do a search on cold approaching to help you in that regard.
Do looks/money/status matter?
In common structured social environments: status, money, social looks, (big muscles, "typical hot guy" look) will get you laid, not having them will handicap you.
In unstructured social circles: biological looks and to some extent, social status, will get you laid. anything else is a bonus and will not make or break you.
In cold approach environment: biological looks gets your foot in the door. DJ game seals the deal. Everything else, again, will not make or break you.
There are exceptions but knowing this could save you wasted effort and rejections. Go the typical route of being rich, buff, and popular if you want to easily hook up with girls at work, school, clubs, bars.
And/or
Learn to be a good seducer and approach random women, only relying on you finding your 10's to maximize your odds.
Its not about IF they matter but WHEN they matter.
Think about your common social environments
At school, at work, large social gatherings, clubs, bars. Who gets the most women thrown at them? The top quarterback, the star manager, the club DJ, bouncer, the handsome hunk, the drug dealer, the rich CEO...etc. Basically the "top dudes"
In a structured social environment, barring them if they are socially inept with women, attractive women will be inclined to f*ck these men. Not necessarily out of biological attraction, but more out of SOCIETAL acceptance and approval. They want some guy they can brag about to their friends.
Kinda like how we all want the busty blonde Pamela Anderson girlfriend, more because we want to impress others, even though she may not be our "ideal woman"
This is why you might be having a hard time getting an attractive girl you work or have a class with, or trying to hook up with someone at a club/bar.
Even though you may be biologically attractive to her, approach her, and game her properly, she will ONLY date the top quarterback or the popular guys at your school.
At a club, the DJ, bouncer, bartender, or some dude that is the IMAGE of the place (ripped, well dressed, great dancer type). Its not because she thinks your repulsive, its cause she wants to impress her family and friends (society), "Look girls, im dating this hot guy that can dance!"
This is Social Matching Theory 101.
Lets turn to biological attraction...
Now when I say biologically attractive, I mean that certain facial features in you turn her on at a visual level, assuming you're a normal looking guy. Just like how certain women may look like a 10 to me but a 7 to you. When we are lacking certain genetic traits, we are biologically programmed to find women lacking those traits extremely attractive. You might have seen a women that was probably a "cutie" to your guy friends, but her facial symmetry/features (and assuming she wasnt obese or anorexic) just gave you a boner in your pants. She's your 10, genetically she posseses what you lack. Based on this biological matching principle, she is more likely to see you as her 10 than say some girl that is your 6 or 7.
However, we have to not mistake our 10 as some Pamela Anderson or Paris Hilton lookalike that society deems a 10. Of course, any guy would f*ck her, with the big tits and blonde hair and all. But face wise she is probably a 6 or 7and thus not a great genetic match for someone like me.
Now if i threw in social matching theory in here, say your ten has a social prediliction to date guys with big muscles or rich men, well at worst she would probably see you as a 6 or 7. Which is still better if your biological 6's or 7's had that same prediliction, which in that case you start to fall into unattractive territory.
The key to finding which girls are your 10's is to really look and see if their facial look strikes you as "very attractive." The only way you would fail to get turned on by her is if she were obese, rail thinned or lacked any sort of feminine behavior. And vice versa for women towards men.
If you're an average guy without model looks or status, expanding your social circle is a common way to hook up with women. Make friends with everyone, including the hot girls, until you get networked with women that are biologically your 10. You have a much better shot hooking up with her than the other chicks, with the added benefit that she will you as guy with a lot of friends, safe to hook up with because "it happened with a guy I hang out with regular," and thus socially acceptable.
The above results in the typical average guy, hot girl scenario everyone here baffles about. He was attractive to her, biologically, and to some extent socially (being in her social circle).
You could also cold approach "your 10's" in nonstructured environments (supermarkets, parks, beaches, department stores). This way she has no preconceived notions or social conditionings about you, and can only base her initial thoughts of "Would I f*ck this guy" on her biological impulses, not on "what do my friends think of this guy." You basically have a clean slate with her as opposed to being "labelled" in a cluttered social environment, where you are one way, and she is another.
Now dont get me wrong there are many ways to f*ck it up and make her repulsed at you, do a search on cold approaching to help you in that regard.
Do looks/money/status matter?
In common structured social environments: status, money, social looks, (big muscles, "typical hot guy" look) will get you laid, not having them will handicap you.
In unstructured social circles: biological looks and to some extent, social status, will get you laid. anything else is a bonus and will not make or break you.
In cold approach environment: biological looks gets your foot in the door. DJ game seals the deal. Everything else, again, will not make or break you.
There are exceptions but knowing this could save you wasted effort and rejections. Go the typical route of being rich, buff, and popular if you want to easily hook up with girls at work, school, clubs, bars.
And/or
Learn to be a good seducer and approach random women, only relying on you finding your 10's to maximize your odds.