Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Mind tricks.

Maeisgood

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How can you tell if a girl is playing with your head? I think this chick liked me, but I didn't show enough interest and ask her out in time. They will not wait around forever. I think this happened. Then she may have just been messing around with my head and stuff.

No one answered my question from a long time ago.

Is there a way to learn information without asking for it? In Hamlet, Polonius says to "fish for truth with lies" or something like that. Can that work, and how do you do it? I need to know so I can find out what Lauren was doing.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Originally posted by Maeisgood
How can you tell if a girl is playing with your head? I think this chick liked me, but I didn't show enough interest and ask her out in time. They will not wait around forever. I think this happened. Then she may have just been messing around with my head and stuff.

No one answered my question from a long time ago.

Is there a way to learn information without asking for it? In Hamlet, Polonius says to "fish for truth with lies" or something like that. Can that work, and how do you do it? I need to know so I can find out what Lauren was doing.
This is in the bible (or archive) the only way to find out if a girl is playing with your head is to ask them out or make a move and see how they respond. It sucks but there is no other way

You can watch body language to find things about her. Then you can tell about her moods and feelings with a good glance. If you want more in depth things, you have to make assumptions which are more likely to be wrong. For example a cheerleader would seem like a person who digs attention, a person always reading a book might be smarter, a person who eats dirt might be crazy...you get the idea. This is called "pacing her reality", basically, put yourself in their shoes and think like them and then you will come to good conclusions about them.

Nothing beats actually talking to them to find out tho

:cool:
 

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Thanks for the replys, I enjoy reading what others have to say.

The girl I am most concerned with has a boyfriend. I just wanted to see what she was doing all this time. Plus, this kind of skill would help out in all kinds of situations in which you want to know stuff without being too obvious about it. The play, Hamlet, there is a scene in which Polonius gives his son tips about life, and the one about "fishing for truth with lies" seems like a really good life skill to have. When you know something about someone, you have a power over them. When they know you don't have some information, they have power over you.

Does anyone remember that? They made us read it in English class last year and that play is rather famous.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Originally posted by Maeisgood
Thanks for the replys, I enjoy reading what others have to say.

The girl I am most concerned with has a boyfriend. I just wanted to see what she was doing all this time. Plus, this kind of skill would help out in all kinds of situations in which you want to know stuff without being too obvious about it. The play, Hamlet, there is a scene in which Polonius gives his son tips about life, and the one about "fishing for truth with lies" seems like a really good life skill to have. When you know something about someone, you have a power over them. When they know you don't have some information, they have power over you.

Does anyone remember that? They made us read it in English class last year and that play is rather famous.
Nope, i don't remember :p

I recall a smart person once saying power is all in your head though. IF you think about it, it is. If you see a supermodel and she is having a bad day and looks like sh!t she has no power. Why is it that people give her power the day she is all dolled up? Power is all in your head, once you can control who you give power to, you are the master of your domain, lol
 

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I just wanted to find out what she was doing between the time she asked me to prom last year and when she got a boyfriend. I want to find out if I had a chance and lost it by not acting soon enough, or if I never had a chance and she just used me.

Is it part of girls' nature to want d!ck around with guys' heads? If so, I hope they all get punished somehow later because that just isn't right.

I really don't understand this whole thing. I can be confident and stuff, ****y and funny, surprising, do manly things like not caring what they think, take control of situations, I have a job, workout, have a car, play a sport, etc., but I can't deal with their catty BS. I think I'm only in her "friends zone". I don't call her anymore, I try to avoid her by walking a different way in the hall, and I park in a different area of the parking lot now. I talk to other girls, but she still calls me.

What would compell a chick to do something so evil? She seems so nice on the outside, but I think on her inside she's insidious.

Todesangel, what is "suck my ****" supposed to mean? What are you mad at?
 

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I was wondering this myself with a girl if she was playing mind tricks.

A while ok i made out with and it carried on into the night at a party.

Then couple of nights ago at a party she shows up but seems to be blowing me off. So i just flirted with everyone there and soon find out she was clearly playing hard to get because she went and told my friend that she likes me lots and wants to dumb her bf but doesnt know how i feel.

So basically if you cant beat them join them, play mind tricks to her, also read the bible it may be big and look boring but im telling you its worth it and not boring once you get going.
 

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Yea I ignore her on AIM. She's like "come back" a bunch of times and my away message is up. She calls me but I'm never home (truthfully). I sort of want to know why she called me but I don't want to ask directly. If I play these games long enough, since she has a boyfriend, I think she'll probably just get pissed off (and not show it) and then we'll just become strangers again. The sad thing is that we're seniors and we'll probably never see each other much after high school so I'll never have a chance to get with her. I knew her in 9th grade but I was too shy then and didn't know what I know now. I just figured out high school, just in time for it to end. But that's life. "Life's a lesson, you learn it when you're through." I think that's from a Limpbizkit song, a band popular when I was in 9th grade. What are they doing now?

The college I'm planning on going to is more girls than guys so that'll help and I'll use new found knowledge about high school there. There needs to be a college forum.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah College forum would be good. im in college at england which is more like your end years of high school. But the High school stuff still helps give or take a few concepts.

Dont speak to her on AIM. But dont delete her she might take offence if finds out.

Why dont you call her back and see what she wants try arranging a date or somthing. Did you say she has a bf?

You sound like your in the same situation as me. Just play it right dont be AFC and if you call her get it over with quick and bail so you dont say out stupid ;) play it cool thou
 

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So call her for a brief time, every now and then? Even if she has a boyfriend? I've never seen him and he does live kind of far away.

She calls me every now and then and wants to hang out. I can't tell if I'm in her "friend zone" or if she's just screwing with my head. Taunting me so she can get confidence boosts or something. These are three theories: she did like me but I didn't ask her out so she assumed that I just wanted to be friends with her because the man is supposed to instigate the "asking out," she just liked me in the way one would like someone as a friend, or she asked me out in desperation in 11th grade to prom. I wrongly assumed that she wasn't in demand so I hesitated and wanted to make it perfect, so I used any excuse not to ask. Sometimes she ignores me, but most of the time she'll say something and she still calls me. I'm so confused.

Here's a hint to everyone else: DO NOT WAIT YOU WILL REGRET IT MORE BY NOT ASKING THAN YOU WILL REGRET IT BY GETTING REJECTED. By asking, if done correctly, you are proving you had the balls to do it.
 
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