Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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I'm 31 been dating a girl thats 25. She is LTR material and pretty much wifey/mother of my children type of girl. Putting herself through school. Driven. Good family with a spiritual background. Has only been with 3 guys previously(a plus imo). We get along great for the most part.The main issue here is due to her schedule we only see each other like 1 day a week and she won't budge. This is not enough sex for me as I have a really high libido. I've been out of the game for a while, and need some tips on getting some side ass during the week. I'm a bigger dude, but I have charm. Women have told me this multiple times. I own 20% of a 40 mil a year business and pretty much have my **** together. I don't want to lose this chick as we have known each other for a long time and I am hoping it lasts, but I need to get laid more often. Any tips at all for sustaining a side piece while keep this relationship together. In the past I never gave a **** as most of the women were whack jobs.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Dear NEPA,
If you want an unhappy life,keep seeing her...I am sure she would be a great Mother,companion...But when A woman at 25 has low Libido it doesn't get better...And you,if you look after yourself will be banging away into your eighties...Face it,you two are svexually incompatible!
 

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Let me rephrase. We are compatible. It's just she's at school all week. So we don't have a lot of time together. Hence the weekday piece. When she is on break we are good to go.
 

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I don't want to lose this chick
This is your whole problem.

She knows this. So it's a combination of a few things: Lowered attraction due to perceived beta traits, plus no need to aim to please if you're not going anywhere.

I think it's time to walk away. She'll either change and try to get you back, or you'll find some new poon....that actually wants to see you more than once a week. Win/Win

NEPA said:
Let me rephrase. We are compatible. It's just she's at school all week. So we don't have a lot of time together. Hence the weekday piece. When she is on break we are good to go.
How far is school away from where you live? Does she live on campus? How old is she, you?
 

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PPretty much all I want to know is how to maintain a side chick with minimal potential of getting caught. I have done this in the past but never cared about getting caught.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Peaks&Valleys said:
This is your whole problem.

She knows this. So it's a combination of a few things: Lowered attraction due to perceived beta traits, plus no need to aim to please if you're not going anywhere.

I think it's time to walk away. She'll either change and try to get you back, or you'll find some new poon....that actually wants to see you more than once a week. Win/Win


How far is school away from where you live? Does she live on campus? How old is she, you?
About 40 miles. Stays with relative. 6.5 year difference.
 

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About 40 miles. Stays with relative.
I had a gf that lived an hour away, and worked ten hours a day. We still managed to see each other a few times during the week, and spend most full weekends together. If she wanted to see you there are ways to get it done.

Think it's time to move on.


6.5 year difference.
Missed that the first time.
 

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NEPA said:
Anyways any pointers on finding a discreet reliable side piece ?
If you want to screw other girls, break up with her. Don't lower yourself and cheat.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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You think sex sux balls now? Marry her, you ain't seen nuffin yet! This chick is in control.
 

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I don't understand why you need advice on "getting a side piece". You have all the ingredients you need to get it. Obviously, you got yourself a girlfriend right now.

She only wants to see you once a week and she's 40 miles away.

What's stopping you from putting up an online profile or going out around your area? If your girlfriend is so dedicated to school, she clearly isn't keeping tabs on you as much, which means you have ALLLLL this extra free time for other women.

You said you have your **** together, so what's the problem then? Why do you need our help? Just go out and bang something. Get a Tinder account. Go get buzzed at a local hole in the wall.

Hell, if anything, the decrease in communication and visibility of you to your girlfriend might even increase her want to see you.
 

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If you're interested in someone on the side, do not go for a single girl. She will want commitment and when the she finds out about your girlfriend, your life will completely suck.

Disclaimer.... this is totally wrong....but...

The easiest way to get side action is find someone else in a committed relationship that's unhappy. At your age group most committed women have kids and most haven't hit that unhappy part in the relationship because they are so focused on the children. So, your best, easiest way for side action, not that I would recommend this, is a women in her mid-to-late thirties that's in a committed relationship.

But honestly this a lot of work, deception, and immoralness all to work around your girlfriend's schedule?

20% owner of a 40 mil a year business and this is your life at 31? Just imagine how busy this girl will be after you two have had a couple of kids. Imagine how busy she'll be when she decides she has a new passion in life, like a major hobby and doesn't have time for you. Life is too short not to have good, regular sex with a younger woman.

I'll leave you with this thought.....I suspect there are some childhood issues in play here. Look at your parents and your interactions with them as you grew up. There's a reason you're attracted to and put up with a distant girl. Perhaps she's even a love avoidant? Or perhaps you fear getting too close and are comfortable with the distance this girl offers? If so, why does that attract you and is that the type of girl you want to be with?
 

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NEPA said:
PPretty much all I want to know is how to maintain a side chick with minimal potential of getting caught. I have done this in the past but never cared about getting caught.
From what I understand, you're just dating the 25 year old and aren't in an exclusive relationship. If you haven't had "the talk" about being exclusive, then you're free to fvck other women. Until the 25 year old decides she wants to be exclusive (and is willing to spend more time with you), then you SHOULD be dating other women. If you happen to get caught, then just tell her that she hasn't made her intentions on being exclusive clear, and that she should have talked to you about it if that was her intention.

As for tips on how to attract other women, the DJ bible is your guide.
 

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With your income, IF she was going to be your WIFE, she wouldn't NEED to work,so SCHOOL isn't really necessary.... is she using it as an excuse to keep you at arms length? IF she was REALLY into you, she SHOULD be willing to meet up for sex MORE than once a week. Even if you had to drive there.

Offer to come up there to see her. IF she's not up for it, YOU are in SECOND place... to another man, to school, WHATEVER. If you aren't first in her life before the wedding, you sure as hell won't be AFTER kids....
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is being a "Don Juan" all about sex?

If this is your primary concern, and you feel you need to keep additional plates, then keep them. But I'm willing to bet you'll eventually lose the girl. I don't have a problem with additional plates, but if you find one that you wish to eventually make a LTR or marry, you're risking the relationship.

From the OP, it appears that you think she's marriage material.

Your libido will always take a back seat in a marriage. Marriage and children kill sex. It doesn't matter if she's been with 3 guys or a total slvt. Once the rings on her finger you'll be left wanting. It's just a fact of life.

If you can't handle that, and are only looking for a piece of ass, then keep spinning plates.

I've been married 23 years to a HB with 3 boys. I can honestly say it DOES get better when she approaches 40, her libido will increase. Right now, my wife is hornier than me. But for years, sex was an issue within the marriage. I stayed with her, because SEX wasn't my primary concern with the relationship. I love her to this day.
 

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sex isn't everything, BUT, when you go from 13 times on a 3 day weekend to maybe 2x a week? He's already down to that, how low will it go? He's ALREADY looking for strange.... is that Good for raising kids?
 

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Lowest point in our marriage.

ONCE in two months. :nervous:

(of course this was right before and after child birth and vasectomy)
 

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SH!T, I cut mine off for a MONTH once, and she didn't NOTICE.... about the time I started preparing for the inevitable Divorce. I set up a FLLP with the boys, started stashing cash, and invested in things {like cattle} that were hard to track.... Then just waited for the boys to be old enough to pick where they would live BEFORE calling her on her ****.
 

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"I own 20% of a 40 mil a year business and pretty much have my **** together" ...

Ya, whatever, if you do the math, that might only pay you 5 digit dividends ... smells like some sort of service thing to me ...

My two minute take on this thread (don't dismiss it, I've not responded to a thread in months), is you're butthurt because this chick is not responding to your awesomeness in a way you feel she should... right?

Now, you want some advice on how to discretely get some extra?

Should you be so awesome, why-tf would you not want to make this chick your plate, and find a main interest (assuming that's what you want)?

If you're heavty, fix it, if you're in dept (regardless of your income) fix it, if you have no life outside of work and a woman fix it. If you're ugly ... sorry man!

You get my point?

In my old experience ... if you have the cash, the facade (game), not a walrus, but most importantly ... the hunger, you will not be asking an internet board how to cheat on a woman that is starving you anyway.

SH
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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