"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Met Asian HB in class. Tips on how to escalate?

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I sit in the front row of a 250-person class. I take the lead and speak loudly and I have caught girls looking at me. Next to me sits Asian HB7 whom I have been gaming at a slow pace (I've stuck out before for moving too fast with Asian girls). Long story short, she went from making no contact with me to punching/touching me and initiating conversations. She's quiet and I mostly see her in class. One day, I was doing some magic tricks in class and I could see girls to my right stretching their necks to see what Robyn was doing--priceless. I digress...anyway, as things are going well, I talk to her after class and tell her I find her attractive and want to hangout. She smiles and gets nervous:

hb: umm we can study together
me: Alright, but that's not what I'm saying. (I forget what I said, but basically stated I wasn't looking to get friend-zoned right off the bat). I basically said let's hangout and if nothing else, THEN we can be friends.
hb: smiles...haaa okay. We can be friends first and then...
me: Sweet, let's exchange phone numbers and catch up later
hb: hand's over phone without hesitation
me: Cool, talk to you later!
hb: bye!

Lately, I have found I'm really into Asian girls. I've gone out with two Asian girls before and both were crash and burns because I moved too fast (apparently, kissing her on the cheek was too much too fast) Those of you with experience in the matter, how do you suggest turning up the heat?

-R
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Robyn923b said:
I talk to her after class and tell her I find her attractive and want to hangout. She smiles and gets nervous:

hb: umm we can study together
me: Alright, but that's not what I'm saying. (I forget what I said, but basically stated I wasn't looking to get friend-zoned right off the bat). I basically said let's hangout and if nothing else, THEN we can be friends.
hb: smiles...haaa okay. We can be friends first and then...
I'm asian and this annoys me so much about asian girls. They're either huge bimbo sluts, or pseudo-conservative rocks who will assume the worst about you if you hit on them in the slightest. They don't know wtf is going on.

Excuse me for venting though, by no means a knock on you if enjoy Asian girls.

SimplePickup actually just did a video about shy girls. They stressed being easy to talk to, as it'll help them open up. So less teasing/attraction type material, and also more time spent making out before trying to escalate further.


Just had to vent...I once went out with this asian girl, and seriously I had JUST started to KISS her on like the 3rd or 4th date and immediately she's all like "omg you're going too fast, stop, where do you see this going..." and then she says "i don't just go around kissing people" I was like WOW. She was fwcking 27 years old too, grew up in america, was a cheerleader in high school....I'm thinkin seriously?!?! I'm 20 years old and you expect something serious? Even as a way AFC i didn't expect her to take me seriously

Reminds me of my high school when some people would become bf/gf and have their first kiss about a MONTH INTO the relationship
 

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Hate to say this, but the majority Asian chicks...the ones specifically from China, Korea and Taiwan are really weird in general.....i live in Taiwan and they are freakin hot as anything sexy as all h$ll, but also weird as all h$ll....kind of just like how Sage described....that's why i despise most of my overly sensitive female co-workers...not to mention how controlling they are...however, my Taiwanese GF is much different...so not all of them are like that..just the majority of them becaus eof their upbringings usually and culture..

However, not all Asian chicks are like that....i find that Phillipinos, Thai and even Vietnamese chicks are just much more down to earth and easy to deal with and much easier to talk to in general, especially Phillipinos...now not all of the first group ones are like that...just saying in general they are more stiff and just hard to deal with and act super awkward if they see any signs that you may be flirting with them.
 

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zinc4 said:
However, not all Asian chicks are like that....i find that Phillipinos, Thai and even Vietnamese chicks are just much more down to earth and easy to deal with and much easier to talk to in general, especially Phillipinos
Interesting. I've never heard anyone say this before, but as I was typing my post I had in mind 2 asian girls I'm acquainted with who do not fit either group I mentioned. One has an awesome personality and would be like the perfect girl if she were hot. Actually, she's not bad-looking at all. The other is just cool, chill, and normal. They're both Fillipino.

Maybe it goes along with the arrogance that China, Japan, and Korea have. I'm Chinese, and hearing the way my parents look down on the other asian countries annoys the fwck out of me
 

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sageproduct said:
I once went out with this asian girl, and seriously I had JUST started to KISS her on like the 3rd or 4th date and immediately she's all like "omg you're going too fast, stop, where do you see this going..." and then she says "i don't just go around kissing people" I was like WOW. She was fwcking 27 years old too, grew up in the United States, was a cheerleader in high school....I'm thinkin seriously?!?! I'm 20 years old and you expect something serious?
This is true; a good number of them one-man-for-a-lifetime kind of girls. I have heard that marrying in the low twenties is normal for them; and the longer they wait, the more they are socially stigmatized. I guess I am just going to have to swing with a blindfold on and hope I hit the ball.



zinc4 said:
Hate to say this, but the majority Asian chicks...are really weird in general.....i live in Taiwan and they are freakin hot as anything sexy as all h$ll, but also weird as all h$ll....kind of just like how Sage described....that's why i despise most of my overly sensitive female co-workers...not to mention how controlling they are...however, my Taiwanese GF is much different...so not all of them are like that..just the majority of them because of their upbringings usually and culture.
I agree with this ^ not to categorize people. I am obviously attracted to Asian women; however, most (foreign) Asian girls tend to have little to no social skills. :yawn:
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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telling you...Phillipinos are the easy chicks on earth to deal with IMO Thais are really cool in general as well....i can date them at will here where live both average ones and super hot ones...and they are so easy to talk to in general......i am not the only one who says this here where i live...have heard a Taiwanese guy say it, a guy from Nicuraugua, a white guy, and of course some Pillipino guys...so it's not a case of them just liking white guys...

Chinese/Taiwanese chicks are the most strict/anal...these are all generalities of course..but it holds true more times than not...and yes Sage, it's disgusting how much Chinese people look down upon Southeast Asians
 
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