"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Met a girl online, banged her, what next?

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Here's a rundown of how things went:

Had some sex talk over texts, we had agreed that after meeting she was coming over to my place
Met for a few beers, she came back to my place
Banged her that night and the morning (I made her *** five times, three at night twice in the morning - I doubt what's coming ahead was because of my performance)

This happened Sunday, she left Monday morning

Sent her a quick text during the day to acknowledge her existence

Tuesday, sent her a text asking for her weekend schedule, saying she could come over for a movie, to which she replied:

"This weekend may not work for me, next week might be better. I'll check my schedule and get back to you"

We all know what that means... Any way I can try to turn this around?

I was thinking NC until next Wednesday, and if she hasn't contacted me by then, try again to invite her to the movie, and if I still get an iffy answer, get rid of the number and move on with my life

If she does contact me, I was thinking of making her life a bit difficult. If she contacts me with a day she's free, say I'm not and I'll be in touch. If she contacts me just to idle chat, reply with very brief messages and not invite her for anything for at least 3-4 days
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I would go ghost completely and see what happens.

You want that hamster spinning.
 

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If it were me, I would not contact her.

If it went as well as you say...she'll very likely initiate contact.
 

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pdx1138 said:
If it were me, I would not contact her.

If it went as well as you say...she'll very likely initiate contact.
Alright, sounds fair... I'm not really big on ONS (usually go for LTR) so not too experienced... What usually explains that type of behavior? Other than women being women... Guilt? Craving an ego boost by having me chase her? Psycho-*****? All of the above? :D
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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ya lol.

could be anything.

I prefer to not waste time on women that have me guessing all the time.

If they are interested, they WILL certainly come back, usually within a week.

She said she would get back to you, so the ball is in her court....don't go chasing the ball.

keep us updated.
 

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ya lol.

could be anything.

I prefer to not waste time on women that have me guessing all the time.

If they are interested, they WILL certainly come back, usually within a week.

keep us updated.
Alright thanks! Last question, I take advantage since you're around, I've always respected your posts... Like I said I'm not used to deal with these mind games: If she does contact me, I was thinking of making her life a bit difficult. If she contacts me with a day she's free, say I'm not and I'll be in touch. If she contacts me just to idle chat, reply with very brief messages and not invite her for anything for at least 3-4 days. What say you?
 

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BannedGod said:
Alright, sounds fair... I'm not really big on ONS (usually go for LTR) so not too experienced... What usually explains that type of behavior? Other than women being women... Guilt? Craving an ego boost by having me chase her? Psycho-*****? All of the above? :D
Dude, she might have just wanted to get laid. You both got what you wanted.

Anything else is gravy.

If her hamster is spinning, it's probably for another guy.

Don't worry about her. If she calls, fine. But don't hold your breath.
 

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BannedGod said:
Sent her a quick text during the day to acknowledge her existence

Tuesday, sent her a text asking for her weekend schedule, saying she could come over for a movie, to which she replied:

"This weekend may not work for me, next week might be better. I'll check my schedule and get back to you"

We all know what that means... Any way I can try to turn this around?

I was thinking NC until next Wednesday, and if she hasn't contacted me by then, try again to invite her to the movie, and if I still get an iffy answer, get rid of the number and move on with my life

If she does contact me, I was thinking of making her life a bit difficult. If she contacts me with a day she's free, say I'm not and I'll be in touch. If she contacts me just to idle chat, reply with very brief messages and not invite her for anything for at least 3-4 days
Bro "acknowledge her existence" sounds a little harsh, but that's me.

Anyway why all the games? If she contacts me here and I'll be busy and if she doesn't contact me here I'll be free, way too complicated. This isn't a tactical court case where you trying to win for a million dollars or some sneaky agenda you want to push on people, its a chick you want to sleep with.

Her: "This weekend may not work for me, next week might be better. I'll check my schedule and get back to you"
You: "OK, let me know."

If no response by Monday, text "Still waiting to hear from you about this week."
 

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BannedGod said:
I've always respected your posts... Like I said I'm not used to deal with these mind games: If she does contact me, I was thinking of making her life a bit difficult. If she contacts me with a day she's free, say I'm not and I'll be in touch. If she contacts me just to idle chat, reply with very brief messages and not invite her for anything for at least 3-4 days. What say you?
Thanks for the complement....I learned everything I know right here.
(from a horrible BPD relationship)

I wouldn't make it difficult....maybe try it later if it seems the thing to do,
like if she starts cancelling etc...

I would not get back to her at all if you don't hear from her. There's lots of women out there,
if you got her you can get another one.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Don't contact her anymore. The ball is definitely in her court.
She's told you she'll get back to you, so now go bang done more women. Don't get hung up on this one, just be thankful for another notch in the bedpost and get some more numbers.
 

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It's funny when the shoe's on the other foot. The last few women I've banged on the first date haven't gotten back in touch. On one hand it's a relief.. I got some cheap, easy sex and I don't have to deal with them wanting to be my girlfriend.. but on the other hand MY hamster is spinning LOL.

She's not interested bro. She had her sex and wants to move on. May have been good or even great, but for whatever reason she wants to move on. Some chicks are like that.

Guys pump and dump, girls do it too. Enjoy it, the tables are turned a little. It's a trip.

My theory is the following: lots of girls aren't really interested in a relationship for whatever reason. Maybe they're lazy, maybe they're too busy, maybe they're about to move, whatever. But, like guys, girls occasionally get super horny. Like sometimes out of the blue I get super horny for like a week or two, I get laid, and then it subsides and I'm back to relaxing.

Maybe this chick just got super horny, and you were so awesome in bed that you quenched that thirst and now she's back to being relaxed. She didn't want a relationship, she was just horny. You satisfied her. Feel better? :)
 
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What next? U want a medal bro?
A medal would be nice, sir!

Anyways, I'll just play it by the ear, I don't really care if I don't hook up with her again in the long run, it would have been a good lay for a while though, definitely in the top girls I've had in the sack
 

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About girls from online going ghost....there are typically two main reasons:

1) They just were not that into you. Maybe she thought you were hot from your picture and that you were so-so when she actually met you. I have been on the other side of that myself and I can tell you I was waiting for the date to be over and then I went ghost.

2) They are dealing with the 10,000 messages they get online and after message 100, you're a footnote in her history. Yes, girls get an ABSURD amount of attention online and their attention span rivals that of a gold fish.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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