"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Message to the sosuave community Ps thanks to Chow man.

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If you followed me on here in the beginning of the year you know i came here for a reason. I had NO FN CLUE ABOUT WOMEN (my mom taught me and still does but i ignore her now about women be nice etc.) and i met in 2007 like 20+ girls got NO WHERE. A girl that msged me on myspace talked to me for months and we met and she only had sex because I was a virgin and I went completley crazy needy obsessed over her and she felt bad and saw i had money so she took me in after i begged and i provided for her (i had no one help me AT ALL and no one FN CARED and I was taken advantage of) she left me 3 years later and was trying to be friend i begged and everything was crying and when I saw picture of her and guy kissing on my cpu i went off on her almost beat her up she called cops and never saw her again. Next gf I met was better but still i treated her way to good and has image of what she wants in a guy which is a beta. I did stuff for her and everything etc because i thought she was great better but not great. I Broke up with her because I wasnt happy i met this girl (this is the one who lead me into here) who was the kind of girl i dreamed of who would buy me drinks flirt and didnt want me to do anything for her but problem is my mindset was beta and she lost attraction snap of fingers because I did and said wrong things made no moves never touched her and it ended bad I went off on her pretty badly and was nuts about her i had a attack where i had pain and my head was throbbing and i went through a downward spiral of depression trying to find answers and thats how beginning of the year came on this site. I went therapist and they said similar things like i need to focus on mmy happiness and things like that and not try to fit into another girls world which what i had been doing. and i blamed mom and dad and they went off and blamed each other and me for this which NO ONE TAQUGHT ME and pisses me off. This year learned so much about women still meeting women having issues but its better then it was and dating has gotten worse with tinder n all now only certain men sleeping with hot women its getting terrilble so i have to bust my ass to look good and learn social skills which everyone on here except one person doesnt care and talks **** thats fine i am trying hard as i can to make up for my **** ups in high school never talking to women it ruined me but im not letting myself die over this crap i got in wreck doing better since plan to make a happy life for myself in 2015. Thank you
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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sylvester the cat

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its a nice performance but it's not going to wash. you don't know because you haven't taken the time to learn.

have you read the dj bible like i advised you to weeks ago?
 

SeymourCake

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Have you even read the DJ Bible since you've signed up here?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ZTIME

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Please explain what "you trying hard" actually involves. I'm new here also, but I listen to and practice all of the advice that I've asked for. It seems like if you were "trying hard", you would have read the DJ bible and stopped asking conceptually stupid questions to these gentlemen.
 

Atom Smasher

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Honor your readers by editing with paragraphs.
 

Dgwizdal

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GettinMyMindRight said:
Haha. Must spread some rep around again.



For some reason I'm feeling sympathetic today so start by typing in paragraphs and make you sh!t readable if you want any chance of respect around here.

And read the f*ckin Bible. I can't fathom that you have as your questions for the last 8 months are all addressed in the fundamental principles.
 
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