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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Mental block with what to say as an opener?!

ryanvalmont

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Ok so i get countless girls ALL the time through doing my thing like using ec,dancing etc...

But i DO NOT OPEN GIRLS,yeah it's not that i'm afraid as because i can say without hesitation that i'm not that shy to aviod opening girls.

It's just whenever i go out i have SOOOOO MUCH confidence it kinda freaks me out,i mean i walk REAL slow and look like this badass who get's girls whenever he wants.

But my problem is i CAN'T open girls ATALL,it's just i can't think of a good enough opener that will come across non needy and kinda smooth!.

BTW:this is my first post in this great forum,i hope i can get some advice on how to open girls....maybe some newbie opener lines?

THX

Ryan Valmont
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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"Hello.." is always a good one to use :)

I like the Joey (Friends style) of "Hey, how you doin?" type opener.

Other than that the search function is a really useful tool.
 

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Originally posted by ThEFuRy
"Hello.." is always a good one to use :)

I like the Joey (Friends style) of "Hey, how you doin?" type opener.

Other than that the search function is a really useful tool.
yeah i gotta try something,i forgot about the search funtion (my bad)

Anyhow i just wanted to know some newbie openers to guys who are just learning to approach or haven't really approached yet.
 

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To be honest all the girls I've ever pulled in clubs I've just said things like 'hey, how u doing' (not in a cheesy way lol) or hi or I'll just make a comment about something like their perfume or the barmaid/barman or whatever. I don't really think the opener matters that much, it's just a way to get convo started. You sound like you have lots of confidence so you should be fine anyway
 

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i'm exactly the same. confidence skyhigh when i go out, but i just don't open.

i do open when it seems very very easy, like if i get good ec with a girl or bump into one; i'm just like "alright, hows it goin?" "havin a good night?" "who are you here with" etc

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although usually, my m8s just open me up to girls anyway - "hey, this is gay gav"; it's still fvckin happening
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by SteR
To be honest all the girls I've ever pulled in clubs I've just said things like 'hey, how u doing' (not in a cheesy way lol) or hi or I'll just make a comment about something like their perfume or the barmaid/barman or whatever. I don't really think the opener matters that much, it's just a way to get convo started. You sound like you have lots of confidence so you should be fine anyway
Thx Ster,my confidence really FRIGHTENS me once i get outside the door heading to the club.

It's as if i turn into this really cool dude and leave my other more reserved self at home...

Ok so i'm out tommorow night to my main pick up club and was thinking of just saying "hey there, how's it going?"...or maybe "hi,i'm ryan...how's it going?"
 

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Ask them who lies more, girls or guys?
 

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dude there is nothing to it.

You see all the badasses out there getting laid, they ain't rehearsin lines and ****. They ain't doin NLP or this nerdy seduction pattern ****.

To get a chick is all embedded in your DNA in fact everyone's DNA. This is why monkeys and dogs aren't out there reading guides on how to get laid.

Stop thinking, let your testosterone do the talking for you. You know that emotion that makes you want to ****, be aggressive, dominate. Get in touch with it. Don't hide it like society wants you to.

For Example: Just like if you wanted you could let your anger loose. Sometimes this is good to do. You see how your brain controls if you act upon your anger. If you bottle it up it comes out another way. You gotta do the same thing with your sex emotion to get girls. Just let it go and don't give a ****. Shut your brain off and feel how its telling you to act.

Let testosterone take over when interacting with females and you'll be fine.

If some of you remember how david deangelo was saying when you get to a certain point "IT DOESN"T MATTER what you say". I think underneath what he figured out on a deeper level. He figured out that when you let your testosterone take over it doesn't matter what you say cause it's sexy as **** to a girl to be a man and be masculine.

Stop thinking with your brain. Next time you're in the social situation, stop trying to think about the situation and just act on what your body is telling you to do. It might take a while to get in touch with it but its there.

Sex doesn't come from the neo cortex. It has ZERO to do with it. This is why chicks like bad boys but in their brains they know they are jerks and no good.

Anyways, If you are still saying oooooo "what should i say" oooo "when is the right time to call her" you are missing the point.
 

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Originally posted by Jvesti
dude there is nothing to it.

You see all the badasses out there getting laid, they ain't rehearsin lines and ****. They ain't doin NLP or this nerdy seduction pattern ****.

To get a chick is all embedded in your DNA in fact everyone's DNA. This is why monkeys and dogs aren't out there reading guides on how to get laid.

Stop thinking, let your testosterone do the talking for you. You know that emotion that makes you want to ****, be aggressive, dominate. Get in touch with it. Don't hide it like society wants you to.

For Example: Just like if you wanted you could let your anger loose. Sometimes this is good to do. You see how your brain controls if you act upon your anger. If you bottle it up it comes out another way. You gotta do the same thing with your sex emotion to get girls. Just let it go and don't give a ****. Shut your brain off and feel how its telling you to act.

Let testosterone take over when interacting with females and you'll be fine.

If some of you remember how david deangelo was saying when you get to a certain point "IT DOESN"T MATTER what you say". I think underneath what he figured out on a deeper level. He figured out that when you let your testosterone take over it doesn't matter what you say cause it's sexy as **** to a girl to be a man and be masculine.

Stop thinking with your brain. Next time you're in the social situation, stop trying to think about the situation and just act on what your body is telling you to do. It might take a while to get in touch with it but its there.

Sex doesn't come from the neo cortex. It has ZERO to do with it. This is why chicks like bad boys but in their brains they know they are jerks and no good.

Anyways, If you are still saying oooooo "what should i say" oooo "when is the right time to call her" you are missing the point.
Ok my friend,sounds like a great way of seeing things,i'll give it a try tommorow night and report back here

Thx for the cool advice so far peeps...off to sleep some now

Ryan Valmont
 

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My advice is just walk up to a girl and say hi, if she responds positively ask her name and make an observational comment anything will do to break the ice. After that your natural charm and charisma should take over. Dont worry about C&F or Neg hits or any of that ****, just be a fun guy to be around and be flirty. I guarantee that if a girl finds you attractive this will work.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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