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Men Want Marriage More Than Women

BadBoy89

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On Valentine's Day, you can usually cue the stereotypical image of the poor single girl. But it may be men that are actually cuddled in bed at home, counting down the days they have left to find a significant other.


As men are beginning to take more of a female role in relationships, wanting to settle down early, have children and start a life with another human being, it seems that more women are quick to abandon society's stereotype.

Men were more likely than women to fall in love at first sight, to want to start a family, and to start a relationship with someone of a different religion or ethnicity than their own. So, the myth that men suffer from a severe case of commitment-phobia may be healed by the fact that women are now yearning for self-sufficiency.

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Thoughts?
 

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Don't be a moron:

A recent Match.com survey, which interviewed 5,200 people ages 21 to over 65 who were neither married, engaged or in a committed relationship, concluded that men were more likely than women to fall in love at first sight, to want to start a family, and to start a relationship with someone of a different religion or ethnicity than their own. So, the myth that men suffer from a severe case of commitment-phobia may be healed by the fact that women are now yearning for self-sufficiency.
This isn't a 'study'. It's a 'survey' of dating app statistics by match dot com, which owns dating apps, so they have a vested interest in the outcome of any 'survey'. Apart from that, 90% of the 'men' on dating apps are losers who prefer swiping to actually approaching women. And the other 10% are players looking for hookups, who wouldn't take that survey.

Next time you read this type of nonsense, wonder 'cui bono?'. The only reason a rag like HuffPost picks up this shyte is to sell advertising space. Just another clickbait article.

P.S, are you @MatureDJ's alternate? You guys seem to post the same clickbait threads.
 

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This article is from 2011. The overall dating environment and dating website/app environment were different then.

Back in 2011, Match owned its main Match website but didn't own Tinder or Hinge yet because neither had yet to be created. Match bought a past its prime Plenty of Fish in 2015 and bought Okcupid in February 2011, right around the time that this article was published. The survey was likely done before the Okcupid acquisition was complete.

It is true that even the 2010-2011 version of the Match company had a vested interest but Match was a different company back then.

I think there are some valid conclusions from this article that were valid in 2011 and have become more valid in the 2020s.

In the last 20-30 years, women have been leaning into their careers more, influenced in part by media depictions of careerist working women. Older Millennial women (think 1981-1989 births) grew up with these women and their Boomer mothers weren't always stay-at-home moms either. Boomer women were the first larger generation where a good portion of women were working women. Millennial women born in the 1980s have only known a world where women leaned into their careers and were expected to work. White collar working women don't necessarily need a man on an individual level, but they need the collective of men to run crucial infrastructure.

The 1981-1989 born woman has had abundance in her dating life since she came of age in the 2000s due to dating websites first, then social media, smartphones, and dating apps.

When a woman has a career and abundance of dating options, why does she desire marriage? That desire is lessened.

Everything I said about 1980s born Millennial women is even more true for late Millennial women born from 1990-1996 and the Gen Z women born from 1997-2005.
 
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Woman asks if men want to be married now. Marriage is difficult to achieve for a lot of men now even if they desire it.

 
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Last week: Men are not into dating anymore and no longer interested in LTR.
This week: Men are into dating and looking for marriage, but women don't.
 

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If we are to believe that p00sy is becoming a scarce resource for so many young men given the sexlessness stats frequently cited here, then this seems like a logical corollary. These men will be more likely to try and lock down what they can in LTR/marriage to secure access to a scarce resource.

On the flip side, the rush of instagram and swipe app validation may prove more alluring to the avg young woman than settling down in a relationship.
 

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Everything there is to say about this so-called survey has already been said by our resident Dutchman. Always consider the source material. A survey conducted by match.com and reported by HuffPost? You have to be huffing some serious sh!t to take anything they say at face value.
 

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Always consider the source material. A survey conducted by match.com and reported by HuffPost? You have to be huffing some serious sh!t to take anything they say at face value.
What sites can be taken at face value?

Don't be a moron:

The only reason a rag like HuffPost picks up this shyte is to sell advertising space. Just another clickbait article.
You insult, smash the source, yet don‘t give alternatives. Who’s the moron?

If Huffpost is no good and clickbait, then give a site or two that is good and not clickbait. Don’t insult the messenger because you don’t agree with it.
 

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So, the myth that men suffer from a severe case of commitment-phobia may be healed by the fact that women are now yearning for self-sufficiency.

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Thoughts?

As the blackpill becomes more mainstream I think these views would become more dated and tone deaf. When more sub-8, non-Chad/Chadlite guys see women are crying that the Chads are not committing to them then I don't think these myths can hold any water. It's not commitment-phobia is that chad / chadlite has too many better options and that the guys who would want a relationship are ignored all over the place. That would never be healed because the in-demand guys would be like that and other guys would be hugging their pillows (myself included). That is supposed to be news?
 

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You insult, smash the source, yet don‘t give alternatives. Who’s the moron?
You're the one starting a thread with a nonsense article.
And I have to give you alternatives?
Of what? Nonsense articles?
Maybe you shouldn't believe everything you see on the internet without doing some due diligence.
 

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You're the one starting a thread with a nonsense article.
Who said it’s nonsense? Just because you say so doesnt mean it is.

And I have to give you alternatives?
Of what? Nonsense articles?
OK let me rephrase.

What site does not pick crap articles to sell advertising space? You said HuffPost does, name a site that doesn’t.
 

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What site does not pick crap articles to sell advertising space? You said HuffPost does, name a site that doesn’t.
The type that publishes good articles to sell advertising space. If you want American examples, Newsweek, The Observer, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, and a host of subversive anti-government magazines.
 

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What sites can be taken at face value?
A lot of "logical" men don't recognize that an argument stands or falls on its own merits. The source is irrelevant. Either something is factual or it isn't.

But this is 2024. Everyone lives in their own silos of confirmation bias.
 

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A lot of "logical" men don't recognize that an argument stands or falls on its own merits. The source is irrelevant. Either something is factual or it isn't.
The question is who determines whether something is factual or not.

Most people are intellectually lazy and cannot or do not do any of their research, and half of those who do suffer from Dunning-Kreuger and cannot reason as they do not have the knowledge or mental capacity to do so. In essence, we're farked.
 
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